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Doc Hoy · February 16, 2013, 06:06 PM

Went to the gunshow in Virginia Beach.

Picked up an Uberti Smoke Wagon .357 and 5 1/2 inch barrel NIB for 430.00.

The vendor had two of them.

Shotput79 · February 16, 2013, 09:38 PM

How bout a pic Doc.

Doc Hoy · February 17, 2013, 06:48 AM

mykeal · February 17, 2013, 07:16 AM

Now that's nice. Congrats.

Logan5579 · February 17, 2013, 07:23 AM

Nice gun! I like the checkering on the grips.

Doc Hoy · February 17, 2013, 07:47 AM

....with the price on this revolver. In fact, I left the gunshow to come back to the house and check the value of a Smokewagon. It appeared that the price I paid is about a hundred less than market. So I went back to the show and bought it. No FFL fees, or shipping, Just 3.00 for the BI plus tax.

I need another revolver like a turtle needs seat belts but I couldn't pass up the deal.

There was a Rossi .357 saddle ring carbine for 429.00 which is about 30 bucks off the going rate too. I just bought a carbine in .45LC so I passed on that. There was also an H&R break open rifle in .45-70 with a two to eight scope for 359.00 which also appears to be about a hundred dollars shy of the market. All of these were NIB.

Ammunition is more plentiful. Still not very much but at least you can get some of the components. I bought some large pistol primers and some .357 brass.

BirchOrr · February 17, 2013, 08:33 AM

Outstanding! Sweet pistol Doc!

Birch

Beagle333 · February 17, 2013, 10:31 AM

That's a good lookin' smokewagon!

Great purchase!

Hawg · February 17, 2013, 10:52 AM

Nice score Doc.

Doc Hoy · February 17, 2013, 11:44 AM

This morning I was very close to going back to get the H&R but I gave it up.

It isn't really the kind of rifle I shoot.

deerslayer303 · February 17, 2013, 12:41 PM

Very Nice Doc. Why is it called a smoke wagon? Is it only rated for Cowboy Ammo?

Doc Hoy · February 17, 2013, 01:13 PM

I can't answer your question.

It is an odd name. The revolver is good for smokeless loads, although it will see few of those as long as I own it.

There are several other names that are applied to Uberti clones of the 1873 Colt.

"Running Iron" comes to mind.

I am wondering if these are actually translations of Italian names designated by Uberti. The phrases, "Smoke Wagon" and "Running Iron" don't seem to have the flair that we in the U.S. might identify with. But the words might mean more to an Italian. I am thinking this is much the same as some of the odd (to us) mannerisms in the spaghetti westerns. Just as those movies seemed over-the-top and a little off, so do the names Smoke Wagon and Running Iron.

I might add that the only place that the words Smoke Wagon appear is on an after manufacture "Taylor's sticker on the box.

I might also add that Taylor's price is a bit lower than the vendor on Gunbroker who appears to be buying them and then marking them up.

Taylor's wants 505.00 plus shipping plus FFL.

Hawg · February 17, 2013, 01:39 PM

Taylor's marketing. My guess is it's from the movie Tombstone, where Wyatt says "Go ahead and skin that smoke wagon and see what happens".

Doc Hoy · February 17, 2013, 01:42 PM

....I'll buy that for a dollar.

deerslayer303 · February 17, 2013, 03:37 PM

Could be Hawg, after all it IS a GREAT one liner!!

So are all Uberti's 1873 Clones rated for full power smokeless loads? I've often eyeballed them. One in .45 LC would fit right nice in the collection

Hawg · February 17, 2013, 03:53 PM

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So are all Uberti's 1873 Clones rated for full power smokeless loads?

Yeah, they even come in .357 magnum.

deerslayer303 · February 17, 2013, 04:34 PM

Not meaning to hijack your thread Doc, But do ya'll know much about the Pietta made 1873 clones? Dixie has a standard blued one 4.75" barrel for 375.00. Boy oh boy, I need to hop in the pickup one day and drive over there and help this disastrous economy out!

Hawg · February 17, 2013, 05:19 PM

I've heard nothing bad about them. They probably have Pietta's billboard plastered on the side of the barrel. Taylors sells them too.

UtahHunting · February 17, 2013, 05:29 PM

Looks great Doc. You'll have to let us know how it shoots.

deerslayer303 · February 17, 2013, 05:40 PM

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They probably have Pietta's billboard plastered on the side of the barrel.

Indeed you are probably right, you know EVERYONE who owns a Pietta complains about that very same thing. And don't they know they would sell more if they would just REDUCE THE FONT!!

Logan5579 · February 17, 2013, 08:07 PM

They stamp it in there deep too...no mercy for the poor barrel.

It wouldn't kill them to put it under the loading lever if they're gonna put it somewhere.

BerdanSS · February 17, 2013, 08:11 PM

Hey Doc, does it feel as good in the hand as they claim? Sure is purdy

thinking about getting one in light of the now near impossible to find USFA Rodeo.

But then there's that 7 & 1/2" model with the bulls-eye ejector in 44-40 I've been pining after for a year or two

Hawg · February 17, 2013, 08:15 PM

44-40 ROCKS!!

Doc Hoy · February 17, 2013, 08:37 PM

Knock it off with the 44-40 crap.

I don't want to get into loading yet another caliber.

Passed up a chance at an 1866 Winchester clone in 44-40 for 600.00.

As my wife says, "Don't make me take my ear-rings off!"

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.......;o)

Doc Hoy · February 17, 2013, 08:53 PM

Feels pretty nice.

It is .357 so the recoil should not be so bad.

I have a Vaquero in .45LC and like a dummy I loaded the cases with about 40 gr. Shot about 200 rounds from that and an Uberti Catttleman and when I was done, my hand was beat to heck.

I swapped out the checkered ebonite grips on that revolver for some similated pearl that I got in a Geroco. Couple the smoother grips with a lighter load and it shoots a little more civilized.

This .357 should be very manageable.

I remember almost a coupla years ago now, Mykeal said he likes .36 cap and ball revolvers better than .44. (Hope I have that right.) .36 might be a little less emotional but it is better behaved.

February 16, 2013, 06:06 PM	#1
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	New addition... Went to the gunshow in Virginia Beach. Picked up an Uberti Smoke Wagon .357 and 5 1/2 inch barrel NIB for 430.00. The vendor had two of them. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

February 17, 2013, 06:48 AM	#3
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Here ya go. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

February 17, 2013, 07:23 AM	#5
Logan5579 Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 102	Nice gun! I like the checkering on the grips. __________________ Beware the man with one gun, he knows how to use it

February 17, 2013, 07:47 AM	#6
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	I am particularly pleased..... ....with the price on this revolver. In fact, I left the gunshow to come back to the house and check the value of a Smokewagon. It appeared that the price I paid is about a hundred less than market. So I went back to the show and bought it. No FFL fees, or shipping, Just 3.00 for the BI plus tax. I need another revolver like a turtle needs seat belts but I couldn't pass up the deal. There was a Rossi .357 saddle ring carbine for 429.00 which is about 30 bucks off the going rate too. I just bought a carbine in .45LC so I passed on that. There was also an H&R break open rifle in .45-70 with a two to eight scope for 359.00 which also appears to be about a hundred dollars shy of the market. All of these were NIB. Ammunition is more plentiful. Still not very much but at least you can get some of the components. I bought some large pistol primers and some .357 brass. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

February 17, 2013, 08:33 AM	#7
BirchOrr Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Location: Eaton Rapids, MI Posts: 445	^^^ Outstanding! Sweet pistol Doc! Birch __________________ Black Powder: Not because it is easy, but because it is hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win...

February 16, 2013, 09:38 PM	#2
Shotput79 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Location: NC Posts: 186	How bout a pic Doc.

February 17, 2013, 07:16 AM	#4
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	Now that's nice. Congrats.

February 17, 2013, 10:31 AM	#8
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	That's a good lookin' smokewagon! Great purchase! __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 17, 2013, 10:52 AM	#9
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Nice score Doc.

February 17, 2013, 11:44 AM	#10
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Thanks for all the responses, fellas. This morning I was very close to going back to get the H&R but I gave it up. It isn't really the kind of rifle I shoot. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

February 17, 2013, 12:41 PM	#11
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	Very Nice Doc. Why is it called a smoke wagon? Is it only rated for Cowboy Ammo? __________________ "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson

February 17, 2013, 01:13 PM	#12
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	DS303 I can't answer your question. It is an odd name. The revolver is good for smokeless loads, although it will see few of those as long as I own it. There are several other names that are applied to Uberti clones of the 1873 Colt. "Running Iron" comes to mind. I am wondering if these are actually translations of Italian names designated by Uberti. The phrases, "Smoke Wagon" and "Running Iron" don't seem to have the flair that we in the U.S. might identify with. But the words might mean more to an Italian. I am thinking this is much the same as some of the odd (to us) mannerisms in the spaghetti westerns. Just as those movies seemed over-the-top and a little off, so do the names Smoke Wagon and Running Iron. I might add that the only place that the words Smoke Wagon appear is on an after manufacture "Taylor's sticker on the box. I might also add that Taylor's price is a bit lower than the vendor on Gunbroker who appears to be buying them and then marking them up. Taylor's wants 505.00 plus shipping plus FFL. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

February 17, 2013, 01:39 PM	#13
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Taylor's marketing. My guess is it's from the movie Tombstone, where Wyatt says "Go ahead and skin that smoke wagon and see what happens".

February 17, 2013, 01:42 PM	#14
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Hawg... ....I'll buy that for a dollar. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

February 17, 2013, 03:37 PM	#15
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	Could be Hawg, after all it IS a GREAT one liner!! So are all Uberti's 1873 Clones rated for full power smokeless loads? I've often eyeballed them. One in .45 LC would fit right nice in the collection __________________ "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson

February 17, 2013, 04:34 PM	#17
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	Not meaning to hijack your thread Doc, But do ya'll know much about the Pietta made 1873 clones? Dixie has a standard blued one 4.75" barrel for 375.00. Boy oh boy, I need to hop in the pickup one day and drive over there and help this disastrous economy out! __________________ "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson

February 17, 2013, 05:19 PM	#18
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	I've heard nothing bad about them. They probably have Pietta's billboard plastered on the side of the barrel. Taylors sells them too.

February 17, 2013, 05:29 PM	#19
UtahHunting Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2009 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 428	Looks great Doc. You'll have to let us know how it shoots.

February 17, 2013, 08:07 PM	#21
Logan5579 Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 102	Re: Pietta barrel stampings They stamp it in there deep too...no mercy for the poor barrel. It wouldn't kill them to put it under the loading lever if they're gonna put it somewhere. __________________ Beware the man with one gun, he knows how to use it

February 17, 2013, 08:11 PM	#22
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	Hey Doc, does it feel as good in the hand as they claim? Sure is purdy thinking about getting one in light of the now near impossible to find USFA Rodeo. But then there's that 7 & 1/2" model with the bulls-eye ejector in 44-40 I've been pining after for a year or two

February 17, 2013, 08:15 PM	#23
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	44-40 ROCKS!!

February 17, 2013, 08:37 PM	#24
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Hey guys....!...! Knock it off with the 44-40 crap. I don't want to get into loading yet another caliber. Passed up a chance at an 1866 Winchester clone in 44-40 for 600.00. As my wife says, "Don't make me take my ear-rings off!" . . . .......;o) __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

February 17, 2013, 08:53 PM	#25
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Berdan... Feels pretty nice. It is .357 so the recoil should not be so bad. I have a Vaquero in .45LC and like a dummy I loaded the cases with about 40 gr. Shot about 200 rounds from that and an Uberti Catttleman and when I was done, my hand was beat to heck. I swapped out the checkered ebonite grips on that revolver for some similated pearl that I got in a Geroco. Couple the smoother grips with a lighter load and it shoots a little more civilized. This .357 should be very manageable. I remember almost a coupla years ago now, Mykeal said he likes .36 cap and ball revolvers better than .44. (Hope I have that right.) .36 might be a little less emotional but it is better behaved. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. Last edited by Doc Hoy; February 17, 2013 at 09:00 PM.