Going too far … where is the line? - Page 2

Erik · January 24, 2005, 12:05 PM

In no particular order:

Shoot to stop. Fight to stop. Keep the rhetoric simple. Understand that when dealing with less than lethal force the legal system may require you to engage in several start-stop scenarios depending oin a variety of factors.

The reasonabless of your actions will be tested the usual way.

OC spray effects are unreliable. Given the range and time lines involved I hope you've got realistic, stress tested options.

Preparation is key. Take the necessary steps. Having weapons access is part of the equation. Only part, the size of which is dependant on a variety of factors different to us all.

jerryd · January 24, 2005, 02:54 PM

Its hard to say what you will do in a certain situation! aside from wetting your pants! Only once i was in a situation were i didnt have my weapon near me, and when its a life and death situation it will amaze yourself of what you can do! You have teeth fingers feet , kick gouge stick your fingers in eyes nose ears , bite!! Bite Hard!! kick stomp anything to get the upper hand, and dont stop till you can be assured that the threat is over for the time being! But dont ever give UP!

1BadF350 · January 24, 2005, 05:32 PM

Also keep in mind the fact we ar not talking about the run of the mill bar brawl here. Can't pull your gun just because you're afraid of getting your butt kicked in a bar where you shouldn;t have your weapon anyway.

We're talking about total random acts of violence right? As always, be prepared and be aware at all times. Situational awareness will save you're butt 99% of the time. If you're situational awareness is good, then you should have plenty of time to recognize when things aren't right and get out of Dodge. If awareness is not your specialty then you better practice 'cause it goes a long way.

January 24, 2005, 12:05 PM	#26
Erik Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: America Posts: 3,479	In no particular order: Shoot to stop. Fight to stop. Keep the rhetoric simple. Understand that when dealing with less than lethal force the legal system may require you to engage in several start-stop scenarios depending oin a variety of factors. The reasonabless of your actions will be tested the usual way. OC spray effects are unreliable. Given the range and time lines involved I hope you've got realistic, stress tested options. Preparation is key. Take the necessary steps. Having weapons access is part of the equation. Only part, the size of which is dependant on a variety of factors different to us all. __________________ Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective

January 24, 2005, 02:54 PM	#27
jerryd Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2004 Location: Ct. Posts: 131	Its hard to say what you will do in a certain situation! aside from wetting your pants! Only once i was in a situation were i didnt have my weapon near me, and when its a life and death situation it will amaze yourself of what you can do! You have teeth fingers feet , kick gouge stick your fingers in eyes nose ears , bite!! Bite Hard!! kick stomp anything to get the upper hand, and dont stop till you can be assured that the threat is over for the time being! But dont ever give UP!

January 24, 2005, 05:32 PM	#28
1BadF350 Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 915	Also keep in mind the fact we ar not talking about the run of the mill bar brawl here. Can't pull your gun just because you're afraid of getting your butt kicked in a bar where you shouldn;t have your weapon anyway. We're talking about total random acts of violence right? As always, be prepared and be aware at all times. Situational awareness will save you're butt 99% of the time. If you're situational awareness is good, then you should have plenty of time to recognize when things aren't right and get out of Dodge. If awareness is not your specialty then you better practice 'cause it goes a long way.