357 mag starting load suggestions

shootsafe · March 4, 2010, 09:57 AM

I would appreciate input.

I will be reloading for my 357.

new winchester brass
Hornady 158gr HP/XTP
Win Mag primers
Win 296 powder

I have found recipes for 158gr, but nothing specifically for the Hornady 158gr HP/XTP.

Thanks,
Shootsafe

AcridSaint · March 4, 2010, 10:02 AM

Hodgdon's starting load for the XTP is 15 Gr., you can have a look at the load data on their website. They are using exactly the same components you have.

Shoney · March 4, 2010, 10:33 AM

The Hodgdon data site is at:
http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

In order to get the full statistics on primers and barrel used, you need to e-mail the data to yourself, because it is not shown in the online data. You will see the e-mail buttopn on the upper right side.

Good Shooting!!

AcridSaint · March 4, 2010, 10:54 AM

Shoney - here is a trick that I learned when I wanted to print one out that I saw while at work. If you click the print button, it will show you the primer type, barrel length etc. This is how I found out they are using the same primers as the OP. That recipe is using a 10" barrel.

shootsafe · March 4, 2010, 01:36 PM

Just what I was looking for.

Just made the Hodgdon sight one of my favorites.

Thanks,
Shootsafe

amamnn · March 4, 2010, 08:19 PM

My suggestion is the ABC's of handloading or the Lee book--Modern Reloading.

GeauxTide · March 4, 2010, 08:27 PM

Starting out with 296 is not starting out. It's designed for top loadings. If you want a milder load to start, try a faster powder, like Unique.

NCMountain · March 4, 2010, 08:30 PM

Just loaded some Hornady 158 gr. XTP's as a matter of fact! But not using your components.

My recipe was as follows:

158 gr. XTP
Accurate #9 powder at 14.5 grains
Min. OAL 1.580 but mine were 1.585
CCI 550 primer

warnerwh · March 5, 2010, 01:35 AM

Winchester 296 and Hodgon 110 which is the same powder are designed for max loads. It is recommended to not go more than 3% less than the max load by the manufacturers.

celtgun · March 5, 2010, 06:29 AM

Are mag primers needed for Winchester 296?

Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

warnerwh · March 6, 2010, 02:09 AM

Yes. I've heard of people getting away with using standard primers but why risk it?

March 4, 2010, 09:57 AM	#1
shootsafe Member Join Date: March 2, 2008 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 86	357 mag starting load suggestions I would appreciate input. I will be reloading for my 357. new winchester brass Hornady 158gr HP/XTP Win Mag primers Win 296 powder I have found recipes for 158gr, but nothing specifically for the Hornady 158gr HP/XTP. Thanks, Shootsafe

March 4, 2010, 10:33 AM	#3
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	The Hodgdon data site is at: http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp In order to get the full statistics on primers and barrel used, you need to e-mail the data to yourself, because it is not shown in the online data. You will see the e-mail buttopn on the upper right side. Good Shooting!! __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

March 4, 2010, 01:36 PM	#5
shootsafe Member Join Date: March 2, 2008 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 86	Thank you Just what I was looking for. Just made the Hodgdon sight one of my favorites. Thanks, Shootsafe

March 4, 2010, 08:19 PM	#6
amamnn Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2006 Location: WA, the left armpit of the USA Posts: 1,323	My suggestion is the ABC's of handloading or the Lee book--Modern Reloading. __________________ "If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal

March 4, 2010, 08:30 PM	#8
NCMountain Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2009 Location: western, NC Posts: 121	Just loaded some Hornady 158 gr. XTP's as a matter of fact! But not using your components. My recipe was as follows: 158 gr. XTP Accurate #9 powder at 14.5 grains Min. OAL 1.580 but mine were 1.585 CCI 550 primer __________________ Ruger GP100 4" SS; Ruger LCP; http://ncmountaingunner.blogspot.com/

March 4, 2010, 10:02 AM	#2
AcridSaint Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2009 Posts: 407	Hodgdon's starting load for the XTP is 15 Gr., you can have a look at the load data on their website. They are using exactly the same components you have.

March 4, 2010, 10:54 AM	#4
AcridSaint Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2009 Posts: 407	Shoney - here is a trick that I learned when I wanted to print one out that I saw while at work. If you click the print button, it will show you the primer type, barrel length etc. This is how I found out they are using the same primers as the OP. That recipe is using a 10" barrel.

March 4, 2010, 08:27 PM	#7
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,424	Starting out with 296 is not starting out. It's designed for top loadings. If you want a milder load to start, try a faster powder, like Unique.

March 5, 2010, 01:35 AM	#9
warnerwh Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2009 Posts: 329	Winchester 296 and Hodgon 110 which is the same powder are designed for max loads. It is recommended to not go more than 3% less than the max load by the manufacturers. __________________ Portland, Or

March 5, 2010, 06:29 AM	#10
celtgun Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2008 Location: SE North Carolina Posts: 203	W-296 Primer selection Are mag primers needed for Winchester 296? Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

March 6, 2010, 02:09 AM	#11
warnerwh Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2009 Posts: 329	Yes. I've heard of people getting away with using standard primers but why risk it? __________________ Portland, Or