Importing with C&R

johnwilliamson062 · October 21, 2013, 04:59 PM

In another thread about C&R:

Quote:

Also he can also import the gun himself if it's outside the USA.

I must have missed this somewhere. Anyone able to point me to the rules on this?

James K · October 22, 2013, 08:54 PM

The application form has to be filled in and submitted for approval. Not a quick process, but AFAIK the only legal way to go.

http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/downl...-f-5330-3a.pdf

Jim

johnwilliamson062 · October 24, 2013, 05:01 PM

Quote:

A Federal firearms licensee other than an importer, may make an occasional
importation of sporting firearms or ammunition
(excluding surplus military)
for
himself or an unlicensed person in the licensee's State

So, a C&R will allow me to even if a regular FFL can not import surplus firearms?
What I have in mind is not surplus, so I guess that doesn't matter, but I did not think a C&R would allow me to import.

Original post
I think I must be misunderstanding something.

PA-Joe · October 24, 2013, 05:38 PM

I think it would still have to be a C&R firearm. 50 years old or listed in the book.

johnwilliamson062 · October 24, 2013, 07:09 PM

But as long as it is C&R no one here disagrees I am able to import?
I will still check with ATFE, but I don't want to seem like an idiot when I call.

James K · October 25, 2013, 07:11 PM

INHO, that statement should be read as "The holder of an importer license imports firearms in the normal course of business and knows all the rules about doing that. FFL holders who are not importers may occasionally import sporting type firearms, but not surplus military arms. C&R licensees can only import C&R items, since that is the only type of firearms their licenses are valid for."

If the firearm is milsurp, I suggest contacting BATFE. I see no reason the type of gun should be different between an importer and a dealer or collector who imports occasionally. I wonder if that exception is obsolete.

Jim

October 22, 2013, 08:54 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The application form has to be filled in and submitted for approval. Not a quick process, but AFAIK the only legal way to go. http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/downl...-f-5330-3a.pdf Jim

October 24, 2013, 05:38 PM	#4
PA-Joe Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: NEPA Posts: 909	I think it would still have to be a C&R firearm. 50 years old or listed in the book.

October 24, 2013, 07:09 PM	#5
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	But as long as it is C&R no one here disagrees I am able to import? I will still check with ATFE, but I don't want to seem like an idiot when I call.

October 25, 2013, 07:11 PM	#6
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	INHO, that statement should be read as "The holder of an importer license imports firearms in the normal course of business and knows all the rules about doing that. FFL holders who are not importers may occasionally import sporting type firearms, but not surplus military arms. C&R licensees can only import C&R items, since that is the only type of firearms their licenses are valid for." If the firearm is milsurp, I suggest contacting BATFE. I see no reason the type of gun should be different between an importer and a dealer or collector who imports occasionally. I wonder if that exception is obsolete. Jim