Botched buy - seller up and died, now it looks like I'm screwed.

[email protected] · October 6, 2001, 02:35 AM

So I found a beauty of a deal - a Group Uzi conversion for sub $2k and the guy had a heart attack.

This is before any paperwork was filled out or anything. Now the guy's 19 year old son has possession of it, and I do believe I may be screwed.

Can a Class III be transfered after the owner has died? An ATF agent I know said it shouldn't be a problem, but I'd like some second or third opinions if possible.

Kevin

chetchat · October 6, 2001, 05:43 AM

If the weapon is part of the deceased's estate, and properly registered, the executor should be able to perform the transfer.

I believe the executor can transfer to you directly (or your SOT if out of state). I don't believe a 19 year old can have a SMG registered to them.

MeekAndMild · October 6, 2001, 11:19 AM

Best get a lawyer. Sounds like the kid needs one too.

I talked to a guy last year about an original RR IMI SMG but only got to the polite smiling and nodding stage due to his obviously feeble condition.

**4V50 Gary** · October 6, 2001, 04:04 PM

The key question is was any money transferred and can you prove it? If the response is yes, you have a contractual agreement between yourself and the seller. That the seller predeceased the completion of the contract means that his estate assumes responsibility for his existing obligations. The executor of the estate will be responsible for delivering you the gun and the 19 year old son should have no say in such matters. Good luck.

October 6, 2001, 02:35 AM	#1
[email protected] Wise Guy Join Date: October 10, 1998 Posts: 665	Botched buy - seller up and died, now it looks like I'm screwed. So I found a beauty of a deal - a Group Uzi conversion for sub $2k and the guy had a heart attack. This is before any paperwork was filled out or anything. Now the guy's 19 year old son has possession of it, and I do believe I may be screwed. Can a Class III be transfered after the owner has died? An ATF agent I know said it shouldn't be a problem, but I'd like some second or third opinions if possible. Kevin __________________ Kevin Jon Schlossberg Owner, BladeForums.com www.bladeforums.com

October 6, 2001, 05:43 AM	#2
chetchat Member Join Date: November 6, 1999 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 73	As Long As It's Legally Registered... If the weapon is part of the deceased's estate, and properly registered, the executor should be able to perform the transfer. I believe the executor can transfer to you directly (or your SOT if out of state). I don't believe a 19 year old can have a SMG registered to them.

October 6, 2001, 04:04 PM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,833	It's not a gun question but a contracts question (with a bit of Wills & Trusts) The key question is was any money transferred and can you prove it? If the response is yes, you have a contractual agreement between yourself and the seller. That the seller predeceased the completion of the contract means that his estate assumes responsibility for his existing obligations. The executor of the estate will be responsible for delivering you the gun and the 19 year old son should have no say in such matters. Good luck. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 6, 2001, 11:19 AM	#3
MeekAndMild Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2001 Posts: 4,988	Best get a lawyer. Sounds like the kid needs one too. I talked to a guy last year about an original RR IMI SMG but only got to the polite smiling and nodding stage due to his obviously feeble condition.