Bandana the deer...

hogdogs · October 20, 2009, 02:18 PM

I have decided not to drag out any more deer.
It has to be a detriment to meat quality and it is a ton of work defeating the frictional effect of heavy critters on the ground.
I have decided to do it the way a NZ buddy totes out the hogs from their rugged terrain...

He also does this with the red stags so I know our little white tails will work this way...

Here is what I came up with to avoid being shot by fellow hunters...
http://www.armyuniverse.com/blaze-or...22-p-3529.html
I figure tieing one or 2 of these to the deer's head/antlers will significantly reduce the risks...
Brent

FrontSight · October 20, 2009, 02:26 PM

Oh man, the thought of all the ticks that will transfer to me gives me the heebie jeevies...

ZeSpectre · October 20, 2009, 02:30 PM

If you got caught doing that in VA you'd get a heck of a ticket from the game wardens. Also I don't think a couple of bandanna on the antlers is gonna save you.

Doyle · October 20, 2009, 02:31 PM

I've seen the critters that are crawling on hogs skin down here (deer too). No way I'd want that on my back. That's why I bought one of those game carts.

davlandrum · October 20, 2009, 02:36 PM

What would the ticket be for?

hogdogs · October 20, 2009, 02:39 PM

1) Cooties wash right off... Many will crawl off as the body temp drops during dressing.

2) What would the violation be for toting out the deer versus dragging it on the ground?

3) I figure if the head is partially blocked from view by a blaze orange "do-rag" most won't even see it and those that do will have to see the orange... I guess I will add an extra to the deer's back as well for good measure...

Sand and flora is a bugger to rinse out of the cavity...

Brent

ZeSpectre · October 20, 2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

What would the ticket be for?

Well now you got me questioning my own statement so I went back and searched where I thought the regulation was. Apparently I was mis-remembering another regulation about carrying across boundaries and nothing to do with actually carrying the carcass. As long as "blaze orange" is visible for 360 degrees on the hunter there is no violation in VA.

In short, oops, I was wrong on that one. Sorry.

simonkenton · October 20, 2009, 04:02 PM

Dragging isn't harmful to the meat.
I have dragged out at least a hundred deer.

davlandrum · October 20, 2009, 04:18 PM

One of those throw away cheapo orange vests works great for this.

cornbush · October 20, 2009, 05:52 PM

my pack frame works good and the ticks dont seem to attack from the frame

Edward429451 · October 20, 2009, 06:12 PM

...now where did that hog go to?

Dr. Strangelove · October 20, 2009, 06:20 PM

Don't you have a teenage son, Brent? Why are you the one doing the dragging?

hogdogs · October 20, 2009, 06:28 PM

If junior is with me, he will help out but he thinks it is too much to ask to do the things younger folks used to do for their elders...

Brent

bcarver · October 20, 2009, 06:33 PM

I shoot mine in roads or fields or someplace I can drive a four wheeler.
It would have to be a huge buck for me to shoot otherwise and it is always easy getting someone to drag a huge buck.
I also learned not to shoot doves that will fall in thickets.

shortwave · October 20, 2009, 07:05 PM

Hey hogs, I`d sure wrap alot more HO around my and the hogs butt if I were gonna do that. Someone sent me a pics. of an 1800lb. pig shot in Fla. No info, just pics. May take you and Jr. both to pack that one

P.S. Do you know of any new gigantic hogs shot in Fla. lately? Pic. shows the hunter(a pharmaceutical guy I think) and the massive hog.

zahnzieh · October 20, 2009, 10:01 PM

I think if i saw you coming out of the woods with a big ole hog on your back wearing a day-glo orange bandana i would pee myself laughing. Why not make him a little orange outfit!!

snipecatcher · October 20, 2009, 10:20 PM

When my stepbrother and I were kids, 8-10 years old, we would go pig hunting with my uncle and his dogs, and we would pack the pigs out on our backs. I've never seen it done that way though. He would gut them first, so we walked out of the woods with a blood soaked shirt and blood caked in our hair. You've never taken a better shower.

hogdogs · October 20, 2009, 10:30 PM

The guy in the pic also guts every pig before toting it. But he is very good at it. He also often has creeks nearby to rinse them I guess.
But the terrain he is in is not conducive to dragging as you can see in the pic.
Brent

RamSlammer · October 20, 2009, 11:15 PM

In rough terrain, I carry a tarp and some nylon rope. Find a couple of straight branches and with a little knife work, it fairly easy to make a good 'ol injun style travois.

Here's a few pointers . . . http://briarpatchoutdoors.educationf...d_travois.html

jdscholer · October 20, 2009, 11:27 PM

Or ya could try the "two guys and a pole method". It looks pretty good on the old movies, but I guarantee you will only try it once; and not for very far. jd

fastforty · October 20, 2009, 11:36 PM

Well now, that brings new meaning to the term "Piggy Back"

The piggy def needs to be dressed in a blaze safety vest though.

But, dragging=tenderizing

roklok · October 21, 2009, 12:31 AM

Like this ? I carried this bear out on my shoulders, but it was crossways, not in line with my back. Safety is a major concern where there are other hunters, a guy was shot and killed years ago on the mountain I deer hunt on back in PA carrying out a deer on his back.

Uncle Buck · October 21, 2009, 12:42 AM

As I can not rely on having a youngster to help drag, my back will not allow me to carry, I have resorted to using a two wheeled carriage. Basically it is made out of two big bicycle tires held with an axle and a handle.
It is great going in also. It carries the lunch bucket, the thermos, and all the other essential gear need for a relaxing day of enjoying the world. But when I do use it to pull my deer out, I wrap the deer in one of those cheapo orange vests, like the other poster said.

Now if I could get the deer to pull me out on the carriage (he has four legs, I have two that sometimes work)....

phil mcwilliam · October 21, 2009, 03:20 AM

I've hunted New Zealand for red deer & the main reason they carry out the carcass in this way is because of the remote steep terrain - no chance of getting a quad bike near to where you hunt, & you need both hands free to steady yourself. I was recently on a hunting trip with hunting guide Paul Convey. Paul was a professional deer culler in New Zealand in the 80's & told me he was packing out a deer in the same way, walking down a ridge-line ,when a shot rang out from the valley below. He claims that he felt the red stag carcass move on his back as he instinctively dived to the ground while yelling a few choice words. He found a bullet hole that had passed through the deer side on ,just under the spine. It still is not compulsory to wear blaze orange in New Zealand, but tying some around a deer carcass when carrying out using this method makes sense to me.

troy_mclure · October 21, 2009, 04:24 AM

ive carried tons of deer out of the woods "fireman carry" accross both sholdurs. always gut it, and let it bleed out for a bit first tho.
i hang my orange vest accross the deer too.

and the blood stains in the shirt add cammo!

October 20, 2009, 02:18 PM	#1
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Bandana the deer... I have decided not to drag out any more deer. It has to be a detriment to meat quality and it is a ton of work defeating the frictional effect of heavy critters on the ground. I have decided to do it the way a NZ buddy totes out the hogs from their rugged terrain... He also does this with the red stags so I know our little white tails will work this way... Here is what I came up with to avoid being shot by fellow hunters... http://www.armyuniverse.com/blaze-or...22-p-3529.html I figure tieing one or 2 of these to the deer's head/antlers will significantly reduce the risks... Brent

October 20, 2009, 02:26 PM	#2
FrontSight Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2005 Posts: 1,712	Oh man, the thought of all the ticks that will transfer to me gives me the heebie jeevies... __________________ To kill something as great as a duck just to smell the gunpowder is a crime against nature. - Alan Liere Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. - George Bernard Shaw

October 20, 2009, 02:30 PM	#3
ZeSpectre Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Shenandoah Valley Posts: 3,276	If you got caught doing that in VA you'd get a heck of a ticket from the game wardens. Also I don't think a couple of bandanna on the antlers is gonna save you. __________________ "The dogs may bark but the caravan moves on"

October 20, 2009, 02:36 PM	#5
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	What would the ticket be for? __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

October 20, 2009, 04:18 PM	#9
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	One of those throw away cheapo orange vests works great for this. __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

October 20, 2009, 02:31 PM	#4
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	I've seen the critters that are crawling on hogs skin down here (deer too). No way I'd want that on my back. That's why I bought one of those game carts.

October 20, 2009, 02:39 PM	#6
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	1) Cooties wash right off... Many will crawl off as the body temp drops during dressing. 2) What would the violation be for toting out the deer versus dragging it on the ground? 3) I figure if the head is partially blocked from view by a blaze orange "do-rag" most won't even see it and those that do will have to see the orange... I guess I will add an extra to the deer's back as well for good measure... Sand and flora is a bugger to rinse out of the cavity... Brent

October 20, 2009, 04:02 PM	#8
simonkenton Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2008 Posts: 891	Dragging isn't harmful to the meat. I have dragged out at least a hundred deer.

October 20, 2009, 05:52 PM	#10
cornbush Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: The retarded place below Idaho Posts: 1,408	my pack frame works good and the ticks dont seem to attack from the frame

October 20, 2009, 06:12 PM	#11
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	...now where did that hog go to?

October 20, 2009, 06:20 PM	#12
Dr. Strangelove Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2008 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 1,436	Don't you have a teenage son, Brent? Why are you the one doing the dragging?

October 20, 2009, 06:28 PM	#13
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	If junior is with me, he will help out but he thinks it is too much to ask to do the things younger folks used to do for their elders... Brent

October 20, 2009, 06:33 PM	#14
bcarver Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2007 Location: Jackson,Mississippi Posts: 838	dragging animals I shoot mine in roads or fields or someplace I can drive a four wheeler. It would have to be a huge buck for me to shoot otherwise and it is always easy getting someone to drag a huge buck. I also learned not to shoot doves that will fall in thickets.

October 20, 2009, 07:05 PM	#15
shortwave Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2007 Location: SOUTHEAST, OHIO Posts: 5,970	Hey hogs, I`d sure wrap alot more HO around my and the hogs butt if I were gonna do that. Someone sent me a pics. of an 1800lb. pig shot in Fla. No info, just pics. May take you and Jr. both to pack that one P.S. Do you know of any new gigantic hogs shot in Fla. lately? Pic. shows the hunter(a pharmaceutical guy I think) and the massive hog.

October 20, 2009, 10:01 PM	#16
zahnzieh Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Posts: 206	I think if i saw you coming out of the woods with a big ole hog on your back wearing a day-glo orange bandana i would pee myself laughing. Why not make him a little orange outfit!!

October 20, 2009, 10:20 PM	#17
snipecatcher Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 314	When my stepbrother and I were kids, 8-10 years old, we would go pig hunting with my uncle and his dogs, and we would pack the pigs out on our backs. I've never seen it done that way though. He would gut them first, so we walked out of the woods with a blood soaked shirt and blood caked in our hair. You've never taken a better shower.

October 20, 2009, 10:30 PM	#18
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	The guy in the pic also guts every pig before toting it. But he is very good at it. He also often has creeks nearby to rinse them I guess. But the terrain he is in is not conducive to dragging as you can see in the pic. Brent

October 20, 2009, 11:15 PM	#19
RamSlammer Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 722	In rough terrain, I carry a tarp and some nylon rope. Find a couple of straight branches and with a little knife work, it fairly easy to make a good 'ol injun style travois. Here's a few pointers . . . http://briarpatchoutdoors.educationf...d_travois.html

October 20, 2009, 11:27 PM	#20
jdscholer Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 1,197	Or ya could try the "two guys and a pole method". It looks pretty good on the old movies, but I guarantee you will only try it once; and not for very far. jd __________________ "We're all dummies, just in different ways." Old Okie Philosopher

October 20, 2009, 11:36 PM	#21
fastforty Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 1999 Location: In a kornfield in kalifornia Posts: 1,161	Well now, that brings new meaning to the term "Piggy Back" The piggy def needs to be dressed in a blaze safety vest though. But, dragging=tenderizing __________________ When Banjos are outlawed, only Outlaws will have Banjos The Bible is my lawbook. I turn the other cheek when applicable, and spend the rest of my days resisting evil at every front, until I have breathed my last breath.

October 21, 2009, 12:42 AM	#23
Uncle Buck Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2009 Location: West Central Missouri Posts: 2,592	As I can not rely on having a youngster to help drag, my back will not allow me to carry, I have resorted to using a two wheeled carriage. Basically it is made out of two big bicycle tires held with an axle and a handle. It is great going in also. It carries the lunch bucket, the thermos, and all the other essential gear need for a relaxing day of enjoying the world. But when I do use it to pull my deer out, I wrap the deer in one of those cheapo orange vests, like the other poster said. Now if I could get the deer to pull me out on the carriage (he has four legs, I have two that sometimes work).... __________________ Inside Every Bright Idea Is The 50% Probability Of A Disaster Waiting To Happen.

October 21, 2009, 03:20 AM	#24
phil mcwilliam Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2007 Posts: 573	I've hunted New Zealand for red deer & the main reason they carry out the carcass in this way is because of the remote steep terrain - no chance of getting a quad bike near to where you hunt, & you need both hands free to steady yourself. I was recently on a hunting trip with hunting guide Paul Convey. Paul was a professional deer culler in New Zealand in the 80's & told me he was packing out a deer in the same way, walking down a ridge-line ,when a shot rang out from the valley below. He claims that he felt the red stag carcass move on his back as he instinctively dived to the ground while yelling a few choice words. He found a bullet hole that had passed through the deer side on ,just under the spine. It still is not compulsory to wear blaze orange in New Zealand, but tying some around a deer carcass when carrying out using this method makes sense to me.

October 21, 2009, 04:24 AM	#25
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	ive carried tons of deer out of the woods "fireman carry" accross both sholdurs. always gut it, and let it bleed out for a bit first tho. i hang my orange vest accross the deer too. and the blood stains in the shirt add cammo! __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

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