Does anyone have the Hornady series 2 .45acp Titanium Nitride die?

Home cast · July 20, 2015, 08:40 PM

I got this set last Thursday, tried to expand the .45acp brass Saturday morning with no luck. It seems to me there is nothing in the expanding die to make it work. Took it back to Midsouth Shooters Supply were I exchanged it. Opened up the new one in the store and same thing looks like a bare expander. Then the guy tells me that the seating stem is the expander and to put it in the body and I'm in business. Can someone please confirm or deny this claim? Here is a photo album of the set, expander body, and the "expander (seating stem)"
http://s173.photobucket.com/user/itz...?sort=3&page=1

reddog81 · July 20, 2015, 08:47 PM

It looks like it could work. What does the expander measure to?

Home cast · July 20, 2015, 08:51 PM

Currently at work so I can't check it. The guy took a .45 brass and it did somewhat fit in, but when I put tye stem in the body there is a little play and doesn't take much movement to make it just drop out....

Home cast · July 20, 2015, 08:59 PM

In my mind if I did press it that way and the brass didn't get jacked up by the fact it's not completely lined up and solid. The downswing would just pull it out of the body.

reddog81 · July 20, 2015, 10:01 PM

Can you unscrew the knurled part on the top of the die and drop the expander in from the top?

Home cast · July 20, 2015, 10:13 PM

No it's a solid body.

243winxb · July 21, 2015, 05:11 AM

Looks like a normal expander in Hornady's photo. Buy RCBS dies. The Hornady sizing die has a coating that may wear off. Ttitanium nitride coatings are used as an abrasion-resistant surface coating on metal parts

Kevin Rohrer · July 21, 2015, 05:51 AM

They have a help line to call.

dahermit · July 21, 2015, 07:20 AM

Quote:

The Hornady sizing die has a coating that may wear off.

Misinformation. Titanium Carbide is a ceramic...a substance that is even harder than Tungsten Carbide. It is used in industry to coat cutting tools made of Tungsten Carbide. It is not going to, "wear off."

Aside from that, Hornady states that their die sets have an " elliptical expander". I suspect that your problem may be as simple as trying to use the sizer/decapper die instead of the expanding die.

Economist · July 21, 2015, 10:40 AM

My Series 2 dies in 380 auto came with two different seating stems, one flat and one concave. The seating stems can be swapped out of the seating die depending on whant you need to seat.
I use the Powder through Expander on my LNL so I never worried about the expander. I will take a look at the set when I get home to see if I can clear up your confusion.

Home cast · July 21, 2015, 04:39 PM

Went back today and showed the assistant manager. He seen it wasn't right and checked their inventory he opened 5 sets before finding one that was right. So basically someone at Hornady had a bad day, and there are probably a few more of those empty expander body's out there in the world.

Nathan · July 21, 2015, 06:05 PM

Wow! I think they are all wrong!

Call Hornady

SHR970 · July 21, 2015, 10:50 PM

You are showing us the seating stem and what looks like the inside of the seating die. If the solid top die is the one you are showing the inside of.. it is missing a piece. I have that set

July 20, 2015, 08:40 PM	#1
Home cast Junior Member Join Date: July 14, 2015 Posts: 8	Does anyone have the Hornady series 2 .45acp Titanium Nitride die? I got this set last Thursday, tried to expand the .45acp brass Saturday morning with no luck. It seems to me there is nothing in the expanding die to make it work. Took it back to Midsouth Shooters Supply were I exchanged it. Opened up the new one in the store and same thing looks like a bare expander. Then the guy tells me that the seating stem is the expander and to put it in the body and I'm in business. Can someone please confirm or deny this claim? Here is a photo album of the set, expander body, and the "expander (seating stem)" http://s173.photobucket.com/user/itz...?sort=3&page=1

July 21, 2015, 05:11 AM	#7
243winxb Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,730	Titanium-Nitride Coated Sizing Ring Looks like a normal expander in Hornady's photo. Buy RCBS dies. The Hornady sizing die has a coating that may wear off. Ttitanium nitride coatings are used as an abrasion-resistant surface coating on metal parts Last edited by 243winxb; July 21, 2015 at 05:17 PM. Reason: Ttitanium nitride coatings are used as an abrasion-resistant surface coating on metal parts

July 21, 2015, 05:51 AM	#8
Kevin Rohrer Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 1,049	They have a help line to call. __________________ Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, ARTCA, and American Legion. Caveat Emptor: Cavery Grips/AmericanGripz/Prestige Grips/Stealth Grips from Clayton, NC. He is a scammer

July 20, 2015, 08:47 PM	#2
reddog81 Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	It looks like it could work. What does the expander measure to?

July 20, 2015, 08:51 PM	#3
Home cast Junior Member Join Date: July 14, 2015 Posts: 8	Currently at work so I can't check it. The guy took a .45 brass and it did somewhat fit in, but when I put tye stem in the body there is a little play and doesn't take much movement to make it just drop out....

July 20, 2015, 08:59 PM	#4
Home cast Junior Member Join Date: July 14, 2015 Posts: 8	In my mind if I did press it that way and the brass didn't get jacked up by the fact it's not completely lined up and solid. The downswing would just pull it out of the body.

July 20, 2015, 10:01 PM	#5
reddog81 Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	Can you unscrew the knurled part on the top of the die and drop the expander in from the top?

July 20, 2015, 10:13 PM	#6
Home cast Junior Member Join Date: July 14, 2015 Posts: 8	No it's a solid body.

July 21, 2015, 10:40 AM	#10
Economist Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2014 Posts: 163	My Series 2 dies in 380 auto came with two different seating stems, one flat and one concave. The seating stems can be swapped out of the seating die depending on whant you need to seat. I use the Powder through Expander on my LNL so I never worried about the expander. I will take a look at the set when I get home to see if I can clear up your confusion.

July 21, 2015, 04:39 PM	#11
Home cast Junior Member Join Date: July 14, 2015 Posts: 8	Went back today and showed the assistant manager. He seen it wasn't right and checked their inventory he opened 5 sets before finding one that was right. So basically someone at Hornady had a bad day, and there are probably a few more of those empty expander body's out there in the world.

July 21, 2015, 06:05 PM	#12
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	Wow! I think they are all wrong! Call Hornady

July 21, 2015, 10:50 PM	#13
SHR970 Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2011 Posts: 1,427	You are showing us the seating stem and what looks like the inside of the seating die. If the solid top die is the one you are showing the inside of.. it is missing a piece. I have that set