Now we have.............

Arkady Kobach · January 23, 2023, 12:50 AM

.............."Assault pistols", at least according to according to Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna, who wrote:

"The weapon that we recovered at that second scene I am describing as a magazine-fed semiautomatic assault pistol. Not an assault rifle, but an assault pistol that had an extended large capacity magazine attached to it."

Will it never end?

**44 AMP** · January 23, 2023, 01:49 AM

it will only end when the people making statements to the press, AND the press know, understand, and CARE about using the correct terminology.

If you piled every inaccurate statement from police officers, officials, spokesmen and sources, on top of each other, you might not reach the moon but I'd bet you could achieve low earth orbit

Our real problem is when the people writing and passing laws don't know, understand, or CARE about using correct terminology. And along with that, the BS terms they do use becoming valid terms in law.

Accuracy of terminology means nothing to those people. Historical use means little to nothing. As long as those people are in the positions they are in, the problems will continue.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 23, 2023, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkady Kobach

Will it never end?

Will what never end?

ballardw · January 23, 2023, 06:01 AM

Isn't any weapon used in an actual assault an "assault weapon"?

BobCat45 · January 23, 2023, 08:03 AM

Yes, I think any particular weapon actually used in an assault can be characterized as an "assault weapon" - but to be clear, I do not mean every weapon of that type or design, only that particular individual weapon.

I do not know the OP from Adam's housecat so can't speak for him, but I think the "it" in "Will it never end" refers to the creation of meaningless labels that can be used to justify 'banning' things - like rifles or pistols that can accept a removable box magazine. Admittedly I just read the story on AP News and had the same reaction as the OP, to the phrase "assault pistol".

At the risk of going off into the weeds, how about this article:
https://www.ibtimes.sg/six-people-in...-strings-68663
Is it time to ban assault kites? For the Children? If it only saves one life?

Small update: Just read that one of the guns was a Cobray with a 30 round mag.

This does not excuse the blatant fearmongering but does help explain the made-up term "assault pistol" in that the Cobray is designed to mimic the appearance of a SMG, rather than just a pistol.

**Tom Servo** · January 23, 2023, 09:38 AM

Since the original poster hasn't provided a source or context, we don't really have a topic to discuss.

January 23, 2023, 12:50 AM	#1
Arkady Kobach member Join Date: November 22, 2022 Location: Kansas City, Kansas, Lawrence, Posts: 6	Now we have............. .............."Assault pistols", at least according to according to Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna, who wrote: "The weapon that we recovered at that second scene I am describing as a magazine-fed semiautomatic assault pistol. Not an assault rifle, but an assault pistol that had an extended large capacity magazine attached to it." Will it never end?

January 23, 2023, 01:49 AM	#2
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,839	it will only end when the people making statements to the press, AND the press know, understand, and CARE about using the correct terminology. If you piled every inaccurate statement from police officers, officials, spokesmen and sources, on top of each other, you might not reach the moon but I'd bet you could achieve low earth orbit Our real problem is when the people writing and passing laws don't know, understand, or CARE about using correct terminology. And along with that, the BS terms they do use becoming valid terms in law. Accuracy of terminology means nothing to those people. Historical use means little to nothing. As long as those people are in the positions they are in, the problems will continue. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

January 23, 2023, 06:01 AM	#4
ballardw Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 1,411	Isn't any weapon used in an actual assault an "assault weapon"? __________________ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ All data is flawed, some just less so.

January 23, 2023, 08:03 AM	#5
BobCat45 Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2004 Location: East Bernard, TX Posts: 523	Yes, I think any particular weapon actually used in an assault can be characterized as an "assault weapon" - but to be clear, I do not mean every weapon of that type or design, only that particular individual weapon. I do not know the OP from Adam's housecat so can't speak for him, but I think the "it" in "Will it never end" refers to the creation of meaningless labels that can be used to justify 'banning' things - like rifles or pistols that can accept a removable box magazine. Admittedly I just read the story on AP News and had the same reaction as the OP, to the phrase "assault pistol". At the risk of going off into the weeds, how about this article: https://www.ibtimes.sg/six-people-in...-strings-68663 Is it time to ban assault kites? For the Children? If it only saves one life? Small update: Just read that one of the guns was a Cobray with a 30 round mag. This does not excuse the blatant fearmongering but does help explain the made-up term "assault pistol" in that the Cobray is designed to mimic the appearance of a SMG, rather than just a pistol. Last edited by BobCat45; January 23, 2023 at 09:37 AM.

January 23, 2023, 09:38 AM	#6
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	Since the original poster hasn't provided a source or context, we don't really have a topic to discuss. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe