9mm HST with blue primer?

[wild cat mccane]

Hey all,

Just received to boxes of 9mm HST in 124gr +P. I opened the box to blue primer dots...kinda sloppy around the primer.


I have 20 boxes of HST from 3 years back and forward, none with anything showing.

Is this the new norm or did I get a poor batch?

Thank you!

[Chui]

Photos??


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[rock185]

I have occasionally bought 9MM ammo that had sealed primers, and didn't before, and later lots didn't. Bought some normally sealed 9MM NATO once that did not have sealed primers. I currently have some Federal 115 JHP 9MM with blue primer sealant. Without a photo, I'd suspect the blue is sealant...

[wild cat mccane]

Federal responded that they use red, clear, and blue sealant. They said this was fine.

I don't know...pretty sloppy for $40 bucks a box...Some of it is filling in the lettering stamping

[mk70ss]

Are you gonna shoot it or exhibit it to people?

[wild cat mccane]

I think I'll just ask since I just said I have 20 boxes of it not looking like that and wanted other thoughts on it than Federal's...

[rock185]

FWIW, I have used Winchester Q4318 9MM NATO, with red sealant applied just as liberally. And some other ammo, don't recall the manufacturer, with liberally applied green sealant. There were no issues encountered in using either...

[Dan-O]

If you’re so worked up about it I offer for you to send it to me. I’ll take it off your hands for ya.

[TunnelRat]

It’s just sealant. I’ve seen it before.


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[wild cat mccane]

I'm not sure I've said anything coming close to excitement?

I'm asking if anyone has seen this in HST. I personally have not.

Thanks

[Carl the Floor Walker]

I bought some and he was advertised as a sealant. I believe there are or were meant to be issued to LE's. I bought some and they run great.

[Brit]

The way that factories install primers in the manufacturing process is more or less perfect!
In shooting factory, and Gov-Spec. Ammunition for over 60 years, I have yet to see an improper primer installation. And my Federal 147g HST (Thanks Son!) 9mm, no sign of sealant? I have no worries on detonation for the 16 rounds sitting in my Glock 19.
One little worry wart check I do, all rounds to be installed in carry pistol, and spare G17 magazine. Are dropped into the dissembled barrel, upend barrel, to drop into my hand.

[Forte S+W]

It's just a primer sealant, pretty much everyone uses them these days, but some use clear sealant so it's more difficult to spot.

I just got some 7.62x25 in the mail yesterday which has bright emerald-coloered sealant on the primers, which actually looks quite cool to me.

[wild cat mccane]

Welp, fascinating. I was on to something after all.

New packaging coming for HST? Look at primer pics. Blue sealant.

https://www.rainierarms.com/federal-...1021_d1b5099d1

[TunnelRat]

Yeah all of the Federal packaging has been redone, as best as I can tell. The American Eagle and Champion boxes I’ve bought have had new designs.


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[jonnyc]

"I just got some 7.62x25 in the mail yesterday which has bright emerald-coloered sealant on the primers, which actually looks quite cool to me."

Is it Fiocchi, or something new and exciting for 7.62 Tokarev collectors???

[wild cat mccane]

Strange the repack now includes sloppy sealant.

Never saw HST look bad. Mine looks pretty poorly done.

[TunnelRat]

Can always call them about it.


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[wild cat mccane]

yeah. Sent Federal pics and they said it was fine.

I'm going to go out on a limb here.

The sealant is now made blue and smeared all over the round for the "Law Enforcement" exaggeration on the new packaging. It's marketing.

It's very clear this sealant is being put on too liberally. Like, it's a total mess with spill over into the stamping.

I know others use sealant. None are this messy.

[jonnyc]

This is very common on ammo produced all over the world. There is no need for sealant to be neatly applied or for that process to be inspected. The more, the merrier. There is no need to be concerned about a bit of color outside the lines, and I highly doubt that it is some kind of marketing ploy.....the color, maybe, but not the "smearing".

[Unclenick]

They may find the overage makes it easier to inspect. Someone looking from a distance can tell it has been applied. I looks like they have an automated burette putting a drop on each at the place where the blob is and then letting gravity and capillary action distribute it around the perimeter of the primer pocket. They let it dry without carefully wiping off the excess. Whether or not that blob is dark or thin then depends on how much solvent they had mixed into the lacquer at the time it was applied.

If it bothers you, a primer sealant solvent can be identified. Dampen a rag with it and wipe every round across the rag and let the remaining sealant dry again.

[wild cat mccane]

HAHA.

Truly, I'm not bothered it's not going to work.

I'm just saying this is the most careless looking made and most expensive round you can buy


I think it's a gimmick. Last month's HST made in 2020 batch no sealant seen. New box HUGE "Law Enforcement" across the entire box and now huge blue sealant blobbing...come on. That's marketing.

[wild cat mccane]

Looking at it again, it's clear it's a drop and excess is bleeding over as stated above.

Just kinda a funny thing to see.

Meh