So I bought a new rifle

Shadow9mm · March 29, 2021, 04:29 PM

I reload 30-06 and the supplies are mostly the same as 308, except for the brass. So i have been kinda browsing the 308 bolt guns here lately. Saw this little rifle in the gun shop today and it followed me home. Mossberg Patriot with a Vortex 3-9x40 on top. I'm a sucker for wood and a fluted bolt. Got her home and cleaned the barrel and action well. Ran the bore scope down and the barrel and was very happy with the very minimal machining marks. Gonne get her broke in tomorrow with some factory ammo, then time to start working up some loads.

FoghornLeghorn · March 29, 2021, 04:32 PM

That's a hot little number. I've never seen one before. Kudos.

Be sure to give us a full range report.

BTW, fellow Hoosier here.

Shadow9mm · March 29, 2021, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FoghornLeghorn

That's a hot little number. I've never seen one before. Kudos.

Be sure to give us a full range report.

BTW, fellow Hoosier here.

Will go, hoping to get her to the range tomorrow to zero and break in. only have 20rnds or Winchester hunting ammo, but that should be enough. Got brass on the way to start working some loads up.

Just finished re-mounting the scope. It was canted, rings were loose both on the scope and to the base. The base was well mounted with lock tite but there was oil under the bases. I cleaned everything up. put lock tite under the bases and on all the screws. leveled the scope and torqued everything down to 15in-lb (per vortex 15-18 in-lb. did not want to over do it.) all square and tight now.

Colorado Redneck · March 29, 2021, 09:50 PM

Very nice looking rifle! I like stipling on a stock. Fluted bbl. Fluted bolt. Yikes! Very nice!

NHSHOOTER · March 30, 2021, 03:30 AM

Even though I am not in the market for a new (to me) rifle that one would have gone home with me too...I too am a sucker for the fluted bolt, never owned 1..

101combatvet · March 30, 2021, 03:47 AM

It shaw do look purdy.

stagpanther · March 30, 2021, 06:30 AM

Good luck--I'll never buy one of those ever again.

CleanDean · March 30, 2021, 06:37 AM

Good Luck with it. Hoping you got a good one.
Happy Trigger time to you !

sparkyv · March 30, 2021, 07:56 AM

Nice looking Patriot. What powders will you use for it?

101combatvet · March 30, 2021, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stagpanther

Good luck--I'll never buy one of those ever again.

What happened?

taylorce1 · March 30, 2021, 09:45 AM

Look down the page a little and you'll see the ussues stagpanther has had with his Patriot.

Sarge · March 30, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by taylorce1

Look down the page a little and you'll see the ussues stagpanther has had with his Patriot.

Indeed and mine is in there too.

Shadow9mm- if you ever take the action out of the stock, use a torque driver to re-tighten the action screws. The magazine guide is plastic and over-tightening the rear screw will bust it right down the middle-

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I called Mossberg and one of the things I asked for, was factory torque specs for the Mossberg Patriot. Since certain versions of the MVP share the same, basic plastic 'magazine guide' I thought I'd pass this along. Per Mossberg, synthetic stocked Patriot action screws should be torqued at 25 to 30 inch/pounds, plus or minus 5 pounds. I did not inquire about MVP specs but if you have a plastic stock, it is likely a safe setting. I over tightened mine and broke it. Mossberg is sending me a replacement...

Edited to add- Mine shoots real well and I'm keeping it. But it sure ain't as pretty as Shadow's Patriot.

Red Devil · March 30, 2021, 11:15 AM

Got a couple of the same rifles, abit in the synthetic stock and chambered in .270 Win., for my boys.

Just had to re-mount the optics, because most of the screws were loose.

MOA shooters.

Red

Shadow9mm · March 30, 2021, 08:23 PM

Got her out today. The Vortex Crossfire left a lot to be desired. Rather disappointed. Glass was clear. Rather than the black ring I am used to getting when I am too close I was getting a white hazy ring. Clicks were super mushy and indistinct. Scope was having trouble adjusting. Would adjust left to right and get a vertical shift. happened several times while me, and my shooting buddy, tired to get it sighted in.

I struggled with flinch a good bit, trigger is light and I was really anticipating the recoil. Got some work to do on that count. My buddy was able to get a 1moa group out of it. Fired about 45rnds total. Good start.

Sarge · March 30, 2021, 08:42 PM

^ I feel your pain. I went through three well regarded scopes last year with similar, unpredictable adjustment issues- or they simply wouldn't stay zeroed. Funny, my old Bushnells and Nikons didn't have any of those problems.

I finally coughed up the difference and got the basic 3-9-40 Leupold Rifleman. It's an excellent, crystal clear scope with predictable friction lock adjustments that accomplish a precise 200 yard zero in 10-12 rounds.

My Patriot came with a Dead Ringer 3-9x40 that went straight in the 'spares' drawer.

Shadow9mm · March 30, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarge

^ I feel your pain. I went through three well regarded scopes last year with similar, unpredictable adjustment issues- or they simply wouldn't stay zeroed. Funny, my old Bushnells and Nikons didn't have any of those problems.

I finally coughed up the difference and got the basic 3-9-40 Leupold Rifleman. It's an excellent, crystal clear scope with predictable friction lock adjustments that accomplish a precise 200 yard zero in 10-12 rounds.

My Patriot came with a Dead Ringer 3-9x40 that went straight in the 'spares' drawer.

Ended up ordering one of the primary arms 4-12x44 FFP mil. My buddy had the same model, different reticle. Worked great today, crisp clear optics. Crisp clicks that did what they were supposed to. and really like the side parallax. Its a touch heavy at 23.9oz (compared to the 14.40z of the crossfire), but its a fairly light rifle. It may end up on a different gun eventually. Really liked his scope, and been wanting to try mils.

Bfglowkey · April 4, 2021, 08:41 AM

When you buy a rifle with a scope already mounted on it, I recommend taking it off and remounting it as if it were brand new. Scope mounting done right is a personal process IMO. Even on my loaner guns for family who come hunt on the property, once they choose the rifle I take the scope off the day before the hunt, we go out and remount it to their preferences and sight it in ( once you get proficient you can site in to Minute of Deer in 5 shots)

dahermit · April 4, 2021, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by stagpanther

Good luck--I'll never buy one of those ever again.

Why post such a cryptic message? Not enough information to be useful. Specifically, what issue(s), did you have with your gun.

jetinteriorguy · April 4, 2021, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dahermit

Why post such a cryptic message? Not enough information to be useful. Specifically, what issue(s), did you have with your gun.

Stag P had a thread outlining the issues he had with his gun.

MarkCO · April 4, 2021, 11:21 AM

Looks nice. My oldest has one in .243Win and it has been a good shooter.

When you buy a rifle with a scope already mounted on it, I recommend taking it off and selling it and getting a decent one.

stagpanther · April 4, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Why post such a cryptic message? Not enough information to be useful. Specifically, what issue(s), did you have with your gun.

Go take a look at this thread for my opinions. Just my opinions--you're welcome to disagree.

Shadow9mm · April 4, 2021, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkCO

Looks nice. My oldest has one in .243Win and it has been a good shooter.

When you buy a rifle with a scope already mounted on it, I recommend taking it off and selling it and getting a decent one.

I normally would, but It was a vortex crossfire II, I figured it would be decent. It was not. It now has a Primary Arms 4-14x44, mil dot reticle, with adjustable objective on it. Much better glass.

MarkCO · April 4, 2021, 11:02 PM

Vortex PST and up, good. Below that, it is a gamble.

PA and SWFA are some budget leaders. If the Crimson Trace optics stay at the steal prices, they are great for the coin.

Shadow9mm · May 11, 2021, 04:03 PM

So quick update. Seems to be picking copper up on the fast side. Total round count is around 120. Did a normal cleaning with a carbon/copper bore cleaner after the first outing of 80rnds. Have fired 40 more since then. Noticed a good bit of copper buildup near the end of the barrel before cleaning. Forgot to take a pic. But Doing a deep cleaning now.

Also the creep in the trigger before it breaks is really annoying me. I pulled the stock and took a look at the trigger group. gonna have to find a tutorial to take it apart.

On a side note, when taking the gun apart the front action screw was finger tight. The action bolts had what appeared to be a drop of red locktite but it was very thin and crusty, I don't believe it was doing anything.

Upon reassembly I applied blue lock tite and after torquing to 25 in lb per mossberg I found I could not remove the bolt. The rear action screw was protruding up into the receiver. I took a file to the screw and shortened it just a touch. but this also makes me think it was not properly torqued either....

While I had it apart I adjusted the trigger. It went from 2.75lb down to 2lb even. Hoping the adjustment might take a little of the creep out.

Just for fun here is an updated pick with the new scope and EGW 20moa rail.

Shadow9mm · May 21, 2021, 09:40 AM

Got to the range yesterday. No match ammo but some good hunting ammo and some pmc bronze fmj. Only able to get 1.4moa between my buddy and me. Pmc bronze shot poorly. 8moa from my gun. 4 moa from my buddies. His rifle shot tge hunting ammo at 0.51moa.

I hate the trigger. Gonna buy the timney drop in. Reducing the trigger from 2.75 to 2.0 eliminated the creep, but its too light.

March 30, 2021, 03:47 AM	#6
101combatvet Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2011 Posts: 667	It shaw do look purdy. __________________ Special Operations Combat Veteran Gunsmith, BS, MFA, Competitive Shooter NRA Certified Firearms Instructor [9 Certifications]

March 30, 2021, 06:30 AM	#7
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,772	Good luck--I'll never buy one of those ever again. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

March 30, 2021, 06:37 AM	#8
CleanDean Member Join Date: March 18, 2012 Location: Penna◇VIGILANT CURMUDGEON Posts: 80	Good Luck with it. Hoping you got a good one. Happy Trigger time to you ! __________________ FNH Scar 17 s --Black ; cause it goes so well with my formal wear, for those special occasions. Customized Mini 14 ,& ATI stock and a 3.5 lb.-- Pittsburgh trigger. / SIG P227 / Colt Python 8 in.Nickel / Colt Gold Cup N.M. ; Voere * KDF in .270 ; N. frame S&W revolvers; and TC Contender in 41 Magnum .

March 30, 2021, 07:56 AM	#9
sparkyv Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 2015 Location: Deepinnaheartta,Texas Posts: 318	Nice looking Patriot. What powders will you use for it? __________________ μολὼν λαβέ NRA Life Member

March 30, 2021, 09:45 AM	#11
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,242	Look down the page a little and you'll see the ussues stagpanther has had with his Patriot. __________________ NRA Life Member

March 29, 2021, 04:32 PM	#2
FoghornLeghorn Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2011 Posts: 961	That's a hot little number. I've never seen one before. Kudos. Be sure to give us a full range report. BTW, fellow Hoosier here.

March 29, 2021, 09:50 PM	#4
Colorado Redneck Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2008 Location: Northeast Colorado Posts: 1,993	Very nice looking rifle! I like stipling on a stock. Fluted bbl. Fluted bolt. Yikes! Very nice!

March 30, 2021, 03:30 AM	#5
NHSHOOTER Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2012 Location: Concord NH Posts: 1,002	Even though I am not in the market for a new (to me) rifle that one would have gone home with me too...I too am a sucker for the fluted bolt, never owned 1..

March 30, 2021, 11:15 AM	#13
Red Devil Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2010 Posts: 274	Got a couple of the same rifles, abit in the synthetic stock and chambered in .270 Win., for my boys. Just had to re-mount the optics, because most of the screws were loose. MOA shooters. Red

March 30, 2021, 08:23 PM	#14
Shadow9mm Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 3,969	Got her out today. The Vortex Crossfire left a lot to be desired. Rather disappointed. Glass was clear. Rather than the black ring I am used to getting when I am too close I was getting a white hazy ring. Clicks were super mushy and indistinct. Scope was having trouble adjusting. Would adjust left to right and get a vertical shift. happened several times while me, and my shooting buddy, tired to get it sighted in. I struggled with flinch a good bit, trigger is light and I was really anticipating the recoil. Got some work to do on that count. My buddy was able to get a 1moa group out of it. Fired about 45rnds total. Good start. __________________ I don't believe in "range fodder" that is why I reload.

March 30, 2021, 08:42 PM	#15
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,457	^ I feel your pain. I went through three well regarded scopes last year with similar, unpredictable adjustment issues- or they simply wouldn't stay zeroed. Funny, my old Bushnells and Nikons didn't have any of those problems. I finally coughed up the difference and got the basic 3-9-40 Leupold Rifleman. It's an excellent, crystal clear scope with predictable friction lock adjustments that accomplish a precise 200 yard zero in 10-12 rounds. My Patriot came with a Dead Ringer 3-9x40 that went straight in the 'spares' drawer. __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

April 4, 2021, 08:41 AM	#17
Bfglowkey Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2018 Posts: 302	When you buy a rifle with a scope already mounted on it, I recommend taking it off and remounting it as if it were brand new. Scope mounting done right is a personal process IMO. Even on my loaner guns for family who come hunt on the property, once they choose the rifle I take the scope off the day before the hunt, we go out and remount it to their preferences and sight it in ( once you get proficient you can site in to Minute of Deer in 5 shots)

April 4, 2021, 11:21 AM	#20
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,307	Looks nice. My oldest has one in .243Win and it has been a good shooter. When you buy a rifle with a scope already mounted on it, I recommend taking it off and selling it and getting a decent one. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

April 4, 2021, 11:02 PM	#23
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,307	Vortex PST and up, good. Below that, it is a gamble. PA and SWFA are some budget leaders. If the Crimson Trace optics stay at the steal prices, they are great for the coin. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

May 21, 2021, 09:40 AM	#25
Shadow9mm Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 3,969	Got to the range yesterday. No match ammo but some good hunting ammo and some pmc bronze fmj. Only able to get 1.4moa between my buddy and me. Pmc bronze shot poorly. 8moa from my gun. 4 moa from my buddies. His rifle shot tge hunting ammo at 0.51moa. I hate the trigger. Gonna buy the timney drop in. Reducing the trigger from 2.75 to 2.0 eliminated the creep, but its too light. __________________ I don't believe in "range fodder" that is why I reload.