Trade An AK For A CZ?

Mr.Blue · July 7, 2011, 07:00 PM

I may be moving back to communist NY for good. I have an Arsenal slr 107fr in 7.62x39 that would be illegal in NY (flash suppressor, bayonet lug, and folding stock).

I haven't put it up for sale yet, but I could get a NIB CZ P01 in trade for it from my LGS, although I'm not sure if I want a P01 or a
PCR.

I likely could get at least $800 for it from a private sale. I am a little hesitant to put it up for sale to private owners, fearing ya-hoos and nuts coming out of the woodwork.

1) would you do the trade, knowing you are leaving $ on the table?

2) those who carry a CZ do you prefer the P01 or the PCR? It would be used for a possible carry gun down the road.

This is what the AK looks like:
http://www.onpointsupply.com/cart.ph...tegory_id=3167

Seven High · July 7, 2011, 07:54 PM

Personally, I would sell the AK privately then buy the CZ. Tell the buyer that he has to show a valid photo i.d. card to buy the rifle. Write down his information. Save it in case there is a problem down the road. Get the CZ PCR. Problem solved,

Nitesites · July 7, 2011, 08:00 PM

If doing private, maybe perform the sale utilizing a notary public?

SurplusShooter · July 7, 2011, 08:27 PM

You could just make the AK NY legal. Just replace the folding stock with fixed one or pin the existing one, replace the flash hider with a muzzle nut or compensater and weld or pin it, and remove the bayonet lug via hacksaw,files,or dremel. Then all you have to do is buy pre-ban mags which you can buy at any Ny gun show or gun shop.

Mr.Blue · July 7, 2011, 09:08 PM

Thanks, but I prefer not to convert it. I have a lot of pre-ban mags for my ARs. I hate NY.

chris in va · July 7, 2011, 09:27 PM

A question, can you carry in NYS? If not, then just sell the AK and get a full size CZ 75 or 97 for range use.

Pilot · July 8, 2011, 05:46 AM

Move to anywhere in PA that allows commuting to where you need to go in NY. Just stay out of NY or NJ. Keep your evil black rifles AND get a CZ.

Wishoot · July 8, 2011, 06:40 AM

Sorry you have to go. I've always wanted an Arsenal, but they're a bit out of my price range.

viking499 · July 8, 2011, 08:55 AM

Quote:

1) would you do the trade, knowing you are leaving $ on the table?

Get him to throw in ammo, mags etc to make up the difference.

Quote:

2) those who carry a CZ do you prefer the P01 or the PCR? It would be used for a possible carry gun down the road.

Both are fairly easy to carry, but for me, the nod goes to the PCR since it is narrower on the front end due to not having the light rail. I really like my PCR.

Smaug · July 8, 2011, 08:59 AM

Stick with your dream and get a CZ 97. You won't regret it.

Sell it privately, through the sales forum here or at THR.

LarryFlew · July 8, 2011, 11:29 AM

Like the PCR a bit better because I don't need a rail HOWEVER I am about to replace my PCR with a Canik C100 which is a clone that has the alloy frame but safety instead of decocker. Since I have a bunch of CZ's that are safety versions I decided my PCR should go as I have less than 100 rounds through it and I never carry or range it anymore.

IMO No matter what you decide you want Sell and Buy is usually a much better proposition than trading.

Pilot · July 8, 2011, 01:25 PM

I don't know. While I prefer the safety, the decocker doesn't bother me as I don't carry CZ cocked and locked, but DA in the safety notch which makes for a pretty easy, and shorter DA pull.

That Canik 100 does look interesting though.

July 7, 2011, 07:00 PM	#1
Mr.Blue Junior member Join Date: May 30, 2011 Location: SE Wisconsin & Long Island, NY Posts: 418	Trade An AK For A CZ? I may be moving back to communist NY for good. I have an Arsenal slr 107fr in 7.62x39 that would be illegal in NY (flash suppressor, bayonet lug, and folding stock). I haven't put it up for sale yet, but I could get a NIB CZ P01 in trade for it from my LGS, although I'm not sure if I want a P01 or a PCR. I likely could get at least $800 for it from a private sale. I am a little hesitant to put it up for sale to private owners, fearing ya-hoos and nuts coming out of the woodwork. 1) would you do the trade, knowing you are leaving $ on the table? 2) those who carry a CZ do you prefer the P01 or the PCR? It would be used for a possible carry gun down the road. This is what the AK looks like: http://www.onpointsupply.com/cart.ph...tegory_id=3167 Last edited by Mr.Blue; July 7, 2011 at 08:04 PM.

July 8, 2011, 05:46 AM	#7
Pilot Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2000 Posts: 4,193	Move to anywhere in PA that allows commuting to where you need to go in NY. Just stay out of NY or NJ. Keep your evil black rifles AND get a CZ. __________________ Pilot

July 8, 2011, 08:59 AM	#10
Smaug Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2004 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 3,210	Stick with your dream and get a CZ 97. You won't regret it. Sell it privately, through the sales forum here or at THR. __________________ -Jeremy "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." - Eric Hoffer

July 8, 2011, 01:25 PM	#12
Pilot Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2000 Posts: 4,193	I don't know. While I prefer the safety, the decocker doesn't bother me as I don't carry CZ cocked and locked, but DA in the safety notch which makes for a pretty easy, and shorter DA pull. That Canik 100 does look interesting though. __________________ Pilot

July 7, 2011, 07:54 PM	#2
Seven High Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Posts: 650	Personally, I would sell the AK privately then buy the CZ. Tell the buyer that he has to show a valid photo i.d. card to buy the rifle. Write down his information. Save it in case there is a problem down the road. Get the CZ PCR. Problem solved,

July 7, 2011, 08:00 PM	#3
Nitesites Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 2011 Posts: 600	If doing private, maybe perform the sale utilizing a notary public?

July 7, 2011, 08:27 PM	#4
SurplusShooter Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2011 Location: Upstate,New york Posts: 308	You could just make the AK NY legal. Just replace the folding stock with fixed one or pin the existing one, replace the flash hider with a muzzle nut or compensater and weld or pin it, and remove the bayonet lug via hacksaw,files,or dremel. Then all you have to do is buy pre-ban mags which you can buy at any Ny gun show or gun shop.

July 7, 2011, 09:08 PM	#5
Mr.Blue Junior member Join Date: May 30, 2011 Location: SE Wisconsin & Long Island, NY Posts: 418	Thanks, but I prefer not to convert it. I have a lot of pre-ban mags for my ARs. I hate NY.

July 7, 2011, 09:27 PM	#6
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	A question, can you carry in NYS? If not, then just sell the AK and get a full size CZ 75 or 97 for range use.

July 8, 2011, 06:40 AM	#8
Wishoot Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,093	Sorry you have to go. I've always wanted an Arsenal, but they're a bit out of my price range.

July 8, 2011, 11:29 AM	#11
LarryFlew Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2009 Location: Minnesota CZ fan Posts: 902	Like the PCR a bit better because I don't need a rail HOWEVER I am about to replace my PCR with a Canik C100 which is a clone that has the alloy frame but safety instead of decocker. Since I have a bunch of CZ's that are safety versions I decided my PCR should go as I have less than 100 rounds through it and I never carry or range it anymore. IMO No matter what you decide you want Sell and Buy is usually a much better proposition than trading.