Talk me into a .410.... - Page 3

FITASC · March 21, 2016, 09:56 AM

Kinda hard to shoot doubles with a single shot

Skeet is the actual name of a particular shotgun game involving clay targets, a regulation field, etc. Backyard or "pasture" clays with a handthrower or small portable trap is something altogether different. That said, as long as folks are safe and have fun, have at it................

jstert · March 21, 2016, 07:57 PM

i shoot 410 out of a bond arms 410/45lc derringer, savage m42 22wmr/410 o/u, h&r single and khan folding single. my b.a. is an edc, loaded with handgun specific defense ammo. the khan folder is a nifty trunk gun, unobtrusive in a gym bag, useful in handgun-unfriendly locales. ammo is light, weight is light, recoil is light (in a long gun). 410 is the 22lr of shotguns for protection: easy to shoot, bigger rounds are better stoppers, but nobody will volunteer to stand in front of either a 410 or 22.

darkgael · March 22, 2016, 06:07 AM

I have been shooting an inexpensive .410 O/U for a couple of weeks now. Just a round at the Trap range after shooting a few with the BT-99.
I don't hit many.
One of the fellows mentioned that "we break'em all the time when we shoot upstate in the back." Aha! Backyard clays....I break'em all the time there too.
In the yard, with a hand thrower or a foot thrower, I am picking up the birds at about 10 to 15 yards. and they aren't moving very fast. On the Trap range, they start at 16 yards (at 40+mph) and are probably at 30 or more by the time I shoot.
It is helpful to see folk differentiating between the generic use of "skeet" and "Trap" and the real thing.
Pete

FITASC · March 22, 2016, 06:34 AM

You're correct in that many do not understand that "trap" and "skeet" are the names of specific clay target games and not a generic name for shooting clay targets.

For newer folks, the Remington brochures do a good job of explaining the games and covering the basics:
https://support.remington.com/Genera...ntals_Handbook

https://support.remington.com/Genera...ntals_Handbook

B.L.E. · March 23, 2016, 06:19 AM

It's not even unusual to hear people call clay birds "skeets". Especially people who don't shoot shotguns. Most pasture clay bird shooting = low house seven in skeet.
Not all card games are poker.
Not all small dogs are Chihuahuas.
Not all personal watercraft are JetSki's®.
And not all clay bird shooting is Skeet.

March 21, 2016, 09:56 AM	#51
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,441	Kinda hard to shoot doubles with a single shot Skeet is the actual name of a particular shotgun game involving clay targets, a regulation field, etc. Backyard or "pasture" clays with a handthrower or small portable trap is something altogether different. That said, as long as folks are safe and have fun, have at it................ __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

March 21, 2016, 07:57 PM	#52
jstert Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2013 Posts: 205	Talk me into a .410.... i shoot 410 out of a bond arms 410/45lc derringer, savage m42 22wmr/410 o/u, h&r single and khan folding single. my b.a. is an edc, loaded with handgun specific defense ammo. the khan folder is a nifty trunk gun, unobtrusive in a gym bag, useful in handgun-unfriendly locales. ammo is light, weight is light, recoil is light (in a long gun). 410 is the 22lr of shotguns for protection: easy to shoot, bigger rounds are better stoppers, but nobody will volunteer to stand in front of either a 410 or 22.

March 22, 2016, 06:07 AM	#53
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	.410 I have been shooting an inexpensive .410 O/U for a couple of weeks now. Just a round at the Trap range after shooting a few with the BT-99. I don't hit many. One of the fellows mentioned that "we break'em all the time when we shoot upstate in the back." Aha! Backyard clays....I break'em all the time there too. In the yard, with a hand thrower or a foot thrower, I am picking up the birds at about 10 to 15 yards. and they aren't moving very fast. On the Trap range, they start at 16 yards (at 40+mph) and are probably at 30 or more by the time I shoot. It is helpful to see folk differentiating between the generic use of "skeet" and "Trap" and the real thing. Pete __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member

March 22, 2016, 06:34 AM	#54
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,441	You're correct in that many do not understand that "trap" and "skeet" are the names of specific clay target games and not a generic name for shooting clay targets. For newer folks, the Remington brochures do a good job of explaining the games and covering the basics: https://support.remington.com/Genera...ntals_Handbook https://support.remington.com/Genera...ntals_Handbook __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

March 23, 2016, 06:19 AM	#55
B.L.E. Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Somewhere on the Southern shore of Lake Travis, TX Posts: 2,603	It's not even unusual to hear people call clay birds "skeets". Especially people who don't shoot shotguns. Most pasture clay bird shooting = low house seven in skeet. Not all card games are poker. Not all small dogs are Chihuahuas. Not all personal watercraft are JetSki's®. And not all clay bird shooting is Skeet. __________________ Hanlon's Razor "Do not invoke conspiracy as explanation when ignorance and incompetence will suffice, as conspiracy implies intelligence and organization." Last edited by B.L.E.; March 23, 2016 at 06:27 AM.

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