Your definition of "Long Range Shooting" - Page 2

Mobuck · April 27, 2017, 08:55 AM

"Sorry JMR, but I have to disagree with you on that one. If you have to worry about shooting too high, you are not sighted in for the maximum point blank range."

A lot depends on the intended target. Truthfully, I've "shot over" a LOT of coyotes using the 2.5-3" high @ 100 yards zero. MPBR is entirely dependent on the size of the critter. Many cartridges should only be 1.5" high @ 100 when shooting at critters with a chest depth of 6". Even then, the MPBR is theoretical since it only addresses aiming from a "zero wobble" platform with a perfectly accurate firearm.

Art Eatman · April 27, 2017, 10:50 AM

Yeah, subjective. I'm a hunter, mostly, so for me long range is out around 400 to 500 yards. Still, that's not what I think of as long range shooting.

To me, real long range is for the competition guys. "Life begins at 600 yards." Serious competition where gear and judgement of the wind comes into play is out there at around a thousand yards.

I built a 500-yard range at my house. Didn't shoot at the 22" steel plate all that much, but with my pet '06, one-MOA groups weren't difficult. But, after many decades of shooting rifles--and 25 years with that particular critter--I figured that I was supposed to be able to do that.

Out of some four dozen tagged bucks, only two were "out there". One at 350, one at 450. All the rest were inside 200 yards. And the last mulie I killed was all the way out to 25 yards.

Zen Archery · April 27, 2017, 12:10 PM

800+

math teacher · April 27, 2017, 02:45 PM

Sighting in for maximum point blank range is related to the size of the critter you are hunting. The point blank range on a moose is much longer than on a deer. If you are going to hunt both deer and elk for instance, then sight in so that the bullet's path will not rise more than 3 inches above the line of sight and you will be good to go for both animals. Sighting in to hit dead on at 100 yard is surrendering to gravity way too soon.

David4516 · April 27, 2017, 04:37 PM

Assume we're talking about centerfire rifle?

I'd say anything less than 200 yards is short range, between 200 and 500 is mid range, and anything 500+ is long range.

Most important factor I think is a good optic, one that you can turn the dials on the turret and always have them go back to the same zero. I hear alot of people saying you need to have a big heavy bullet going at high velocity but I've shot out to 600 yards with plain old 55gr .223

My current long range gun is a 6.5mm Grendel AR-15, have a 16x fixed power scope on it. Works pretty well, but I could use more practice with it (I'm still a bit of a noob at long range stuff)

Model12Win · April 27, 2017, 06:43 PM

Anything over 400 meters.

Don Fischer · April 27, 2017, 07:57 PM

I believe 400 to 500yds is long range. You cannot sight in much of any rifle and hold dead on at that range. Where ever you sight in your rifle you will at some point need to change either the scope or your hold to make a hit!

View Poll Results: Your definition of "Long Range Shooting"
100 yards	2	3.13%
300 yards	9	14.06%
500 yards	19	29.69%
600 yards	16	25.00%
1000 yards	12	18.75%
It depends on other factors	6	9.38%
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April 27, 2017, 12:10 PM	#28
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April 27, 2017, 08:55 AM	#26
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	"Sorry JMR, but I have to disagree with you on that one. If you have to worry about shooting too high, you are not sighted in for the maximum point blank range." A lot depends on the intended target. Truthfully, I've "shot over" a LOT of coyotes using the 2.5-3" high @ 100 yards zero. MPBR is entirely dependent on the size of the critter. Many cartridges should only be 1.5" high @ 100 when shooting at critters with a chest depth of 6". Even then, the MPBR is theoretical since it only addresses aiming from a "zero wobble" platform with a perfectly accurate firearm.

April 27, 2017, 10:50 AM	#27
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Yeah, subjective. I'm a hunter, mostly, so for me long range is out around 400 to 500 yards. Still, that's not what I think of as long range shooting. To me, real long range is for the competition guys. "Life begins at 600 yards." Serious competition where gear and judgement of the wind comes into play is out there at around a thousand yards. I built a 500-yard range at my house. Didn't shoot at the 22" steel plate all that much, but with my pet '06, one-MOA groups weren't difficult. But, after many decades of shooting rifles--and 25 years with that particular critter--I figured that I was supposed to be able to do that. Out of some four dozen tagged bucks, only two were "out there". One at 350, one at 450. All the rest were inside 200 yards. And the last mulie I killed was all the way out to 25 yards.

April 27, 2017, 02:45 PM	#29
math teacher Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2012 Location: Southwest WA Coast Posts: 559	Sighting in for maximum point blank range is related to the size of the critter you are hunting. The point blank range on a moose is much longer than on a deer. If you are going to hunt both deer and elk for instance, then sight in so that the bullet's path will not rise more than 3 inches above the line of sight and you will be good to go for both animals. Sighting in to hit dead on at 100 yard is surrendering to gravity way too soon.

April 27, 2017, 06:43 PM	#31
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Anything over 400 meters.

April 27, 2017, 07:57 PM	#32
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	I believe 400 to 500yds is long range. You cannot sight in much of any rifle and hold dead on at that range. Where ever you sight in your rifle you will at some point need to change either the scope or your hold to make a hit!