Sons Of Guns -Discovery TV

blacksky · February 22, 2012, 11:10 AM

Never seen this show... Any comments on it?

Stephanie Hayden, 25, is known as the brains behind the "Sons of Guns" operation. Her weapon of choice? The Supressed AK-47

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...ntcmp=features

**Mike Irwin** · February 22, 2012, 11:32 AM

We've had several threads on Sons of Guns over the past year or more that it's been on TV.

You can retrieve them either with the search here, or using Google to search the site.

pgdion · February 22, 2012, 11:34 AM

I enjoy watching it. It's not really educational but it is entertaining and I like the people on it. Stephanie is pretty cool and Will is terrific. Just a down to earth here's the way it is sort of guy.

RamItOne · February 22, 2012, 12:09 PM

Too much to type on phone, don't know if it was covered in other posts but will and Stephanie lost their mfg lic after a bad ATF audit (couldn't account for multiple NFA weapons) they put (drawing a blank) the tattooed guy in charge of the shop for legal purposes. IIRC this all went down when the were in talks with discovery. The tattooed guy has since left the show and they have two other people legally in charge of the business.

Drama drama drama lol.

PS if you've been following the show I think wills treatment of their only true gunsmith and how he's favoring the twerp (whom I used to like until he got too big for his britches) is very unprofessional.

kraigwy · February 22, 2012, 12:18 PM

MidwayUSA's Wednesday Night at the range programs are better in my opinion.

CTS · February 22, 2012, 12:38 PM

Not worth watching in my opinion. If I want drama I can watch Days of our Lives. Most of the stuff they build is sheer nonsense that most people wouldn't have the money for or wouldn't waste it on if they did.

brian923 · February 22, 2012, 12:39 PM

Amen brother! ( to midway usa's programs)I liked it until the drama. And when Will starts stating incorrect info about his "builds" nevertherless, its a decent show, and ill probly toon in for the next season.

I really hoped that American guns would take off. They were people that know what they are talking about. Also, they made some reall nice guns, and were down to earth. Guess thats why they cancled the show. We'll see, hope it comes back for season 2!

Coyote_Buster700 · February 22, 2012, 12:46 PM

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PS if you've been following the show I think wills treatment of their only true gunsmith and how he's favoring the twerp (whom I used to like until he got too big for his britches) is very unprofessional.
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I agree.

Plus I think I'm a much better man for Stephanie. lol She's not super hot, but the way she talks about guns makes me go retarded.

blacksky · February 22, 2012, 12:51 PM

Craig Stuart...

Sir, and I say that with nothing but respect for you on this forum. What channel is this show broadcast on?

Wyoredman · February 22, 2012, 12:54 PM

Midway USA's Wednesday Night at the Range series is on the Outdoor Channel.

MoBart · February 22, 2012, 01:15 PM

NIts usually pretty over the top crazy stuff they buikd, like the water.cooled.duel M16s on a boat mount. Why would you not water cool a csw or a belt fed 249? Just made no sense to me. I loved american guns, just saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago. Didnt know it was cancelled, that to bad.

tobnpr · February 22, 2012, 01:33 PM

Stephanie and her Dad, Will, had to surrender their FFL's in '09 due to missing firearms at the time of a BATF audit. Vince Buckles became the FFL of record for RJF, then got fed up and quit the end of last season.

Vince has since started a new venture; and Hayden is being sued for allegedly ripping off the plaintiff by transferring assets to "another" Red Jacket entity- there are several...

The show is reality TV, there is very little useful information for genuine gun enthusiasts. They repeatedly "invent" firearms and concepts that have been done before...and take credit for them.

Just google search around for the dirt...

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...ses-their-ffl/

blacksky · February 22, 2012, 03:34 PM

Don't think I'll be watching any time soon!

RamItOne · February 22, 2012, 03:58 PM

thanks tobnr for the link, i was on my iphone, my fingers only work so much. I bet some of those nfa guns went to that collector thats always bringing will interesting finds.

Find it funny how they always talk about having the proper licenses to do what they do...

Lzwo · February 22, 2012, 04:19 PM

Of the two, I like "American Guns" much better - seems to be more informative and some interesting stuff goes on. Plus I like seeing how pretty Colorado is.

Have you ever noticed on "Sons of Guns" how everything they do is either based on an AK or an MG42? Its like "lets see how we can make X (starting from an AK)" or "lets put this MG42 into some application...."
I liked the S2 finale where they basically, if I understand correctly, turned an AK into an AR for sale to military contractors. Why not just sell an AK, I don't know....

Coyote_Buster700 · February 22, 2012, 04:38 PM

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Have you ever noticed on "Sons of Guns" how everything they do is either based on an AK or an MG42? Its like "lets see how we can make X (starting from an AK)" or "lets put this MG42 into some application...."
I liked the S2 finale where they basically, if I understand correctly, turned an AK into an AR for sale to military contractors. Why not just sell an AK, I don't know....

It was just a piston driven AR... that was about the end of the similarity.

CTS · February 22, 2012, 04:53 PM

I watched an episode where they were restoring a Japanese Carcano and they only had one round to test fire it with. They kept on stressing how rare the round was and impossible to find. I went online and midway had them for 19.95 a box, in stock ready to ship.

Coyote_Buster700 · February 22, 2012, 04:58 PM

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I went online and midway had them for 19.95 a box, in stock ready to ship.

That's hilarious

wingman · February 22, 2012, 05:24 PM

Poor show find it boring and somewhat sad to portray gun owners in that manner.

CTS · February 22, 2012, 09:33 PM

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Poor show find it boring and somewhat sad to portray gun owners in that manner.

I agree but, I think it is probably geared toward non gun owners who don't know any better.
Top Shot is another one I can't stand. If it were really about the best shot, they wouldn't have "voting off" of team members. It would be a simple process of elimination. Everyone gets the same shot, if you miss go home. I guess that wouldn't make for good television or something. Everyone wants the drama apparently.

Palmetto-Pride · February 22, 2012, 09:59 PM

Sons of Guns is about as.................I was going to state how I really feel, but sometimes when you can't say anything nice you should keep your mouth shut.....so that's what I will do here.

asm3686 · February 22, 2012, 11:31 PM

I agree that the top shot show is more about luck than being the "top" shot. My wife and I watch sons of guns she likes the people and I like any show with guns in it. I wonder if they will be back next season? Anyone know?

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Big Shrek · February 22, 2012, 11:34 PM

I prefer the other show...from the Gunsmoke Shop...but they do stupid stuff for TV as well...

The whole "Pink 1911" episode...was so silly...they were all acting like they never saw or heard of a pink gun before...
all the guys were against it...which was even sadder....

Pink Guns = more sales to women.
More sales to Women = less women kvetching about their guy going to the range...
More sales to Women = MORE FREEKIN MONEY IN YOUR GUNSHOP from sales of guns & accessories!!
More sales to Women = more CCW classes at $180 a pop...DUH!!
More sales to Women = a better & safer world.

So to those who are against pink guns & pink accessories...ya might wanna rethink that position.

CTS · February 23, 2012, 12:26 AM

I got no problems with Pink.

frigate88 · February 23, 2012, 12:42 AM

Um.. Duh. Pink is the new black. Who wants to stare down the barrel of a pink gun, or any gun for that matter. But a pink gun... Sure don't want to tell me friends I got shot by a pink gun.

On the suns of guns part... ANNOYING TO SAY THE LEAST.

February 22, 2012, 11:10 AM	#1
blacksky Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: OH Posts: 741	Sons Of Guns -Discovery TV Never seen this show... Any comments on it? Stephanie Hayden, 25, is known as the brains behind the "Sons of Guns" operation. Her weapon of choice? The Supressed AK-47 http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...ntcmp=features __________________ By the choices we make, we define ourselves, thereby revealing what we truly care about. Last edited by blacksky; February 22, 2012 at 11:27 AM.

February 22, 2012, 11:32 AM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,383	We've had several threads on Sons of Guns over the past year or more that it's been on TV. You can retrieve them either with the search here, or using Google to search the site. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

February 22, 2012, 11:34 AM	#3
pgdion Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2010 Location: MPLS, MN Posts: 1,214	I enjoy watching it. It's not really educational but it is entertaining and I like the people on it. Stephanie is pretty cool and Will is terrific. Just a down to earth here's the way it is sort of guy. __________________ 597 VTR, because there's so many cans and so little time!

February 22, 2012, 12:18 PM	#5
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	MidwayUSA's Wednesday Night at the range programs are better in my opinion. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

February 22, 2012, 12:39 PM	#7
brian923 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2009 Posts: 183	Amen brother! ( to midway usa's programs)I liked it until the drama. And when Will starts stating incorrect info about his "builds" nevertherless, its a decent show, and ill probly toon in for the next season. I really hoped that American guns would take off. They were people that know what they are talking about. Also, they made some reall nice guns, and were down to earth. Guess thats why they cancled the show. We'll see, hope it comes back for season 2! __________________ 07 FFL offering truly custom AR15'S! https://www.facebook.com/Reactionarms Last edited by brian923; February 22, 2012 at 12:46 PM.

February 22, 2012, 12:09 PM	#4
RamItOne Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Posts: 990	Too much to type on phone, don't know if it was covered in other posts but will and Stephanie lost their mfg lic after a bad ATF audit (couldn't account for multiple NFA weapons) they put (drawing a blank) the tattooed guy in charge of the shop for legal purposes. IIRC this all went down when the were in talks with discovery. The tattooed guy has since left the show and they have two other people legally in charge of the business. Drama drama drama lol. PS if you've been following the show I think wills treatment of their only true gunsmith and how he's favoring the twerp (whom I used to like until he got too big for his britches) is very unprofessional.

February 22, 2012, 12:38 PM	#6
CTS Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: NE Georgia Posts: 1,070	Not worth watching in my opinion. If I want drama I can watch Days of our Lives. Most of the stuff they build is sheer nonsense that most people wouldn't have the money for or wouldn't waste it on if they did.

February 22, 2012, 12:51 PM	#9
blacksky Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: OH Posts: 741	MidwayUSA's Wednesday Night at the range programs are better in my opinion. Craig Stuart... Sir, and I say that with nothing but respect for you on this forum. What channel is this show broadcast on? __________________ By the choices we make, we define ourselves, thereby revealing what we truly care about.

February 22, 2012, 12:54 PM	#10
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,350	Midway USA's Wednesday Night at the Range series is on the Outdoor Channel. __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

February 22, 2012, 01:15 PM	#11
MoBart Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2009 Posts: 267	NIts usually pretty over the top crazy stuff they buikd, like the water.cooled.duel M16s on a boat mount. Why would you not water cool a csw or a belt fed 249? Just made no sense to me. I loved american guns, just saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago. Didnt know it was cancelled, that to bad.

February 22, 2012, 01:33 PM	#12
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	Stephanie and her Dad, Will, had to surrender their FFL's in '09 due to missing firearms at the time of a BATF audit. Vince Buckles became the FFL of record for RJF, then got fed up and quit the end of last season. Vince has since started a new venture; and Hayden is being sued for allegedly ripping off the plaintiff by transferring assets to "another" Red Jacket entity- there are several... The show is reality TV, there is very little useful information for genuine gun enthusiasts. They repeatedly "invent" firearms and concepts that have been done before...and take credit for them. Just google search around for the dirt... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...ses-their-ffl/

February 22, 2012, 03:34 PM	#13
blacksky Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: OH Posts: 741	I haven't seen a reality show that was close to reality Don't think I'll be watching any time soon! __________________ By the choices we make, we define ourselves, thereby revealing what we truly care about.

February 22, 2012, 03:58 PM	#14
RamItOne Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Posts: 990	thanks tobnr for the link, i was on my iphone, my fingers only work so much. I bet some of those nfa guns went to that collector thats always bringing will interesting finds. Find it funny how they always talk about having the proper licenses to do what they do...

February 22, 2012, 04:19 PM	#15
Lzwo Member Join Date: September 15, 2011 Location: North Florida Posts: 15	Of the two, I like "American Guns" much better - seems to be more informative and some interesting stuff goes on. Plus I like seeing how pretty Colorado is. Have you ever noticed on "Sons of Guns" how everything they do is either based on an AK or an MG42? Its like "lets see how we can make X (starting from an AK)" or "lets put this MG42 into some application...." I liked the S2 finale where they basically, if I understand correctly, turned an AK into an AR for sale to military contractors. Why not just sell an AK, I don't know....

February 22, 2012, 04:53 PM	#17
CTS Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: NE Georgia Posts: 1,070	I watched an episode where they were restoring a Japanese Carcano and they only had one round to test fire it with. They kept on stressing how rare the round was and impossible to find. I went online and midway had them for 19.95 a box, in stock ready to ship.

February 22, 2012, 05:24 PM	#19
wingman Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2002 Posts: 2,108	Poor show find it boring and somewhat sad to portray gun owners in that manner.

February 22, 2012, 09:59 PM	#21
Palmetto-Pride Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,071	Sons of Guns is about as.................I was going to state how I really feel, but sometimes when you can't say anything nice you should keep your mouth shut.....so that's what I will do here. __________________ “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” -Margaret Thatcher-

February 22, 2012, 11:31 PM	#22
asm3686 Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Carterville IL Posts: 115	I agree that the top shot show is more about luck than being the "top" shot. My wife and I watch sons of guns she likes the people and I like any show with guns in it. I wonder if they will be back next season? Anyone know? Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

February 22, 2012, 11:34 PM	#23
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 1,358	I prefer the other show...from the Gunsmoke Shop...but they do stupid stuff for TV as well... The whole "Pink 1911" episode...was so silly...they were all acting like they never saw or heard of a pink gun before... all the guys were against it...which was even sadder.... Pink Guns = more sales to women. More sales to Women = less women kvetching about their guy going to the range... More sales to Women = MORE FREEKIN MONEY IN YOUR GUNSHOP from sales of guns & accessories!! More sales to Women = more CCW classes at $180 a pop...DUH!! More sales to Women = a better & safer world. So to those who are against pink guns & pink accessories...ya might wanna rethink that position. __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

February 23, 2012, 12:26 AM	#24
CTS Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: NE Georgia Posts: 1,070	I got no problems with Pink.

February 23, 2012, 12:42 AM	#25
frigate88 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2011 Location: LOXAHATCHEE, FL Posts: 204	Um.. Duh. Pink is the new black. Who wants to stare down the barrel of a pink gun, or any gun for that matter. But a pink gun... Sure don't want to tell me friends I got shot by a pink gun. On the suns of guns part... ANNOYING TO SAY THE LEAST. __________________ "We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for thier own actions." **BLEED BLUE, 10-8**