Odd

charlie in md · August 16, 2013, 06:37 AM

The linked ad in armslist has me scratching my head:

http://www.armslist.com/posts/200269...ident-sporting

Why would this be selling so far under market value, when there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it?

There is a companion ad for a trap model with an extra unisingle barrel for $2400, again way undervalued.

BigD_in_FL · August 16, 2013, 07:23 AM

I suspect one of two possibilities:

1 - A scam to get someone to send them some money for no gun;
2 - someone inherited some guns, has no idea what they have, and looked up Beretta and saw the Onyx or similar and thought they were the same

In either case, I would be calling the seller to feel them out

charlie in md · August 16, 2013, 12:15 PM

A scam did come to mind, also the possibility they're "hot"

PetahW · August 16, 2013, 12:32 PM

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With a 90% discount from new, IMO that hook's sure to grab some fish.............

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markj · August 16, 2013, 04:37 PM

Click on the contact seller button and ask him.

drcook · August 16, 2013, 05:02 PM

I would say scam. That same text is on gunbroker. As are the photos, however the photos have been cropped on Armslist.

Usually when I am in doubt about something, I take the first line of their text or other line and run a google search. If they copied it from another site, Google will find it.

This is the gunbroker listing I think it was copied from. What say you all ?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=357506420

same thing with this auction by the same lister, once again the photos appear to be cropped to remove the gunbroker text inserted on them

http://www.armslist.com/posts/200261...tta-model-dt10

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=357532739

drcook · August 16, 2013, 07:13 PM

I contacted the seller on Gunbroker where it was copied from. He said definitely scam. He gave me his number to contact him and he said he will share what he knows. I will let you all know what he says.

Both of those listings have now been deactivated by the seller..........................

charlie in md · August 16, 2013, 08:28 PM

thanks much dr!

SauerGrapes · August 16, 2013, 08:35 PM

I ran into a similar situation a couple years ago on Auction Arms.com. Same gun, two listings, one was $1,000 cheaper than the other.
The actual owner was very upset when I told him somebody was also trying to sell his O/U.

zippy13 · August 17, 2013, 12:33 AM

It's hard to tell from the pics; but, to my eye, it look like there's a ding (saddle) in the rib just behind the front sight. The seller says there are pics of the blemishes and shows us a close up of the business end.

drcook · August 17, 2013, 03:06 AM

Quote:

It's hard to tell from the pics; but, to my eye, it look like there's a ding (saddle) in the rib just behind the front sight. The seller says there are pics of the blemishes and shows us a close up of the business end.

are you talking about the pictures in the scam listing or the pictures in the real listing on gunbroker ?

there is a ding in the vent rib that can be seen in the picture of the muzzle end. the listing on gunbroker is very carefully showing the dings and gotchas on the gun and that is why that view was chosen (In my opinion) a sideways shot wouldn't have shown the dent in VR as well as the angular picture shot does.

a wedge used correctly can lift that ding out.

I have a ding in a steel VR on a gun I am restoring that I will need to carefully move metal with a block of steel and a flat faced punch

zippy13 · August 18, 2013, 06:04 PM

The pic in the first post's link. It may be an easy fix, but the seller may not want to mess with it.

August 16, 2013, 06:37 AM	#1
charlie in md Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Posts: 185	Odd The linked ad in armslist has me scratching my head: http://www.armslist.com/posts/200269...ident-sporting Why would this be selling so far under market value, when there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it? There is a companion ad for a trap model with an extra unisingle barrel for $2400, again way undervalued.

August 16, 2013, 05:02 PM	#6
drcook Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2009 Posts: 285	I would say scam. That same text is on gunbroker. As are the photos, however the photos have been cropped on Armslist. Usually when I am in doubt about something, I take the first line of their text or other line and run a google search. If they copied it from another site, Google will find it. This is the gunbroker listing I think it was copied from. What say you all ? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=357506420 same thing with this auction by the same lister, once again the photos appear to be cropped to remove the gunbroker text inserted on them http://www.armslist.com/posts/200261...tta-model-dt10 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=357532739 Last edited by drcook; August 16, 2013 at 05:43 PM.

August 16, 2013, 07:13 PM	#7
drcook Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2009 Posts: 285	I contacted the seller on Gunbroker where it was copied from. He said definitely scam. He gave me his number to contact him and he said he will share what he knows. I will let you all know what he says. Both of those listings have now been deactivated by the seller.......................... Last edited by drcook; August 16, 2013 at 09:33 PM.

August 16, 2013, 08:35 PM	#9
SauerGrapes Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Location: S.E.PA. Posts: 920	I ran into a similar situation a couple years ago on Auction Arms.com. Same gun, two listings, one was $1,000 cheaper than the other. The actual owner was very upset when I told him somebody was also trying to sell his O/U. __________________ NRA member, DCF&S member, PAFOA member, USPSA member, NSCA member R.I.P.____Murphy

August 16, 2013, 07:23 AM	#2
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	I suspect one of two possibilities: 1 - A scam to get someone to send them some money for no gun; 2 - someone inherited some guns, has no idea what they have, and looked up Beretta and saw the Onyx or similar and thought they were the same In either case, I would be calling the seller to feel them out

August 16, 2013, 12:15 PM	#3
charlie in md Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Posts: 185	A scam did come to mind, also the possibility they're "hot"

August 16, 2013, 12:32 PM	#4
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. With a 90% discount from new, IMO that hook's sure to grab some fish............. .

August 16, 2013, 04:37 PM	#5
markj Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2005 Location: Crescent Iowa Posts: 2,971	Click on the contact seller button and ask him.

August 16, 2013, 08:28 PM	#8
charlie in md Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Posts: 185	thanks much dr!

August 17, 2013, 12:33 AM	#10
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	It's hard to tell from the pics; but, to my eye, it look like there's a ding (saddle) in the rib just behind the front sight. The seller says there are pics of the blemishes and shows us a close up of the business end.

August 18, 2013, 06:04 PM	#12
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	The pic in the first post's link. It may be an easy fix, but the seller may not want to mess with it.