Semi-Auto or Pump

gdeal · July 21, 2009, 01:07 PM

I'm sure a pump action shotgun is more common and there are some people out there that can do this action lightning fast. But for the common person, what is better for self-defense, a semi-auto or pump action shotgun?

Brigadier · July 21, 2009, 01:19 PM

Which is better 9mm or .45? Ford or Chevy? Beatles or Led Zepplin?

mathman · July 21, 2009, 01:21 PM

I prefer an auto...most prefer pumps.

Good pumps are about a third of the cost of a good auto...which is part of the reason so many prefer pumps. Plus, a pump allows the operator to have more control of the firearm...for example, it is easier to chamber a round from the tube in an 870 than it is in a Benelli auto.

I terms of actually firing the shotgun in a defense mode, a pump forces the operator to be in 'deliberate control'...which is definitely a good thing.

Just my opinion...I'm sure you'll get a lot more.

mathman · July 21, 2009, 01:26 PM

Aw, come on...every one knows that 45 is better than 9mm, Ford is better than Chevy and Led Zeppelin is better than the Beatles.

Now...pump vs. auto...this one is tough!

gdeal · July 21, 2009, 01:30 PM

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Which is better 9mm or .45?

Dude. No way is that the same kind of comparison.

mathman · July 21, 2009, 01:32 PM

gdeal...it was a joke.

Brigadier · July 21, 2009, 01:32 PM

But it has been beat to death just as much....

Anticonn · July 21, 2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

I prefer an auto...most prefer pumps.

Good pumps are about a third of the cost of a good auto...which is part of the reason so many prefer pumps. Plus, a pump allows the operator to have more control of the firearm...for example, it is easier to chamber a round from the tube in an 870 than it is in a Benelli auto.

I terms of actually firing the shotgun in a defense mode, a pump forces the operator to be in 'deliberate control'...which is definitely a good thing.

Just my opinion...I'm sure you'll get a lot more.

Good points all around.

I have a pump, but I think I would like an auto as well. Both are good.

hogdogs · July 21, 2009, 01:42 PM

In the hands of a truly competent shot gun handler of all types.... It is only a matter of personal preference... For every one else it comes down to what you are most proficient with. From field strip and cleaning skills on up to repeatable results from various positions and such. For me that is the pump... I have seen too many missed game kills due to a failure to cycle on the autos...
Brent

MagicMan · July 21, 2009, 02:02 PM

I have both. Semi-auto is more fun to shoot, but my pumps get used for HD.

oneounceload · July 21, 2009, 04:19 PM

What's better? A double barrel with hammers and two triggers - simplicity in action

greyson97 · July 21, 2009, 04:20 PM

omg, not another one of these threads.

gdeal · July 21, 2009, 04:51 PM

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omg, not another one of these threads

dude. ask the moderator to close it then.

greyson97 · July 21, 2009, 04:56 PM

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=365394

hogdogs · July 21, 2009, 05:15 PM

greyson, Having been a member under a month... YOU HAVE NO CLUE...

You will see far more BADH (beat a dead horse) threads, get used to them and participate where you wish...
Brent

gdeal · July 21, 2009, 05:18 PM

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get used to them and participate where you wish.

that's some pretty good any forum advice.

greyson97 · July 21, 2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

greyson, Having been a member under a month... YOU HAVE NO CLUE... You will see far more BADH (beat a dead horse) threads, get used to them and participate where you wish...
Brent

so, what sort of stick do you recommend i get to beat the dead horse with? oak or hickory?

mathman · July 21, 2009, 05:28 PM

how about the butt end of your Benelli

amprecon · July 21, 2009, 10:19 PM

The pump is less expensive and they can be fired surprisingly fast. For me they offer a rythm with the pumping action that I think helps me shoot more accurately at moving targets, moreso than an auto does. It also gives you that pause that allows you to better re-assess your aim to ensure a better second shot if necessary.
Oh yeah, they aren't as ammo finicky and are usually more reliable and cleanliness isn't as big an issue.

tommyb · July 21, 2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Which is better 9mm or .45? Ford or Chevy? Beatles or Led Zepplin?

.45, Chevy, Zeppelin

mathman · July 21, 2009, 11:10 PM

Doesn't Ford win by default? I mean...didn't Chevy go bankrupt or something?

*puts on flame suit*

gdeal · July 21, 2009, 11:28 PM

forget the 9 vs. 45. go with .40 Smith & Wesson or .357 Magnum. Ford makes better Trucks & Vans. Chevy makes better cars. Have you seen the new retro Camero? The Beatles will always Be. So let it be. I guess this thread can be closed now. pump for all pratical purposes. Benelli Auto just for fun.

mathman · July 21, 2009, 11:39 PM

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pump for all pratical purposes. Benelli Auto just for fun.

to each his own...i use the benelli for both

and sometimes use the pump for both...when i want to hear the 'chu-chunk' that supposedly scares the hell out of everyone within a 1 mile radius

July 21, 2009, 01:07 PM	#1
gdeal Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 748	Semi-Auto or Pump I'm sure a pump action shotgun is more common and there are some people out there that can do this action lightning fast. But for the common person, what is better for self-defense, a semi-auto or pump action shotgun?

July 21, 2009, 01:21 PM	#3
mathman Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,531	I prefer an auto...most prefer pumps. Good pumps are about a third of the cost of a good auto...which is part of the reason so many prefer pumps. Plus, a pump allows the operator to have more control of the firearm...for example, it is easier to chamber a round from the tube in an 870 than it is in a Benelli auto. I terms of actually firing the shotgun in a defense mode, a pump forces the operator to be in 'deliberate control'...which is definitely a good thing. Just my opinion...I'm sure you'll get a lot more. __________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak.

July 21, 2009, 01:26 PM	#4
mathman Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,531	Aw, come on...every one knows that 45 is better than 9mm, Ford is better than Chevy and Led Zeppelin is better than the Beatles. Now...pump vs. auto...this one is tough! __________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak.

July 21, 2009, 01:32 PM	#6
mathman Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,531	gdeal...it was a joke. __________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak.

July 21, 2009, 04:20 PM	#12
greyson97 Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,284	omg, not another one of these threads. __________________ "Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet." -Heavy si vis pacem, para bellum

July 21, 2009, 01:19 PM	#2
Brigadier Member Join Date: June 3, 2009 Posts: 32	Which is better 9mm or .45? Ford or Chevy? Beatles or Led Zepplin?

July 21, 2009, 01:42 PM	#9
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	In the hands of a truly competent shot gun handler of all types.... It is only a matter of personal preference... For every one else it comes down to what you are most proficient with. From field strip and cleaning skills on up to repeatable results from various positions and such. For me that is the pump... I have seen too many missed game kills due to a failure to cycle on the autos... Brent

July 21, 2009, 02:02 PM	#10
MagicMan Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2008 Location: PA Posts: 296	I have both. Semi-auto is more fun to shoot, but my pumps get used for HD.

July 21, 2009, 04:19 PM	#11
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	What's better? A double barrel with hammers and two triggers - simplicity in action

July 21, 2009, 04:56 PM	#14
greyson97 Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,284	http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=365394 __________________ "Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet." -Heavy si vis pacem, para bellum

July 21, 2009, 05:15 PM	#15
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	greyson, Having been a member under a month... YOU HAVE NO CLUE... You will see far more BADH (beat a dead horse) threads, get used to them and participate where you wish... Brent

July 21, 2009, 05:28 PM	#18
mathman Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,531	how about the butt end of your Benelli __________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak.

July 21, 2009, 10:19 PM	#19
amprecon Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 1999 Location: TN Posts: 786	The pump is less expensive and they can be fired surprisingly fast. For me they offer a rythm with the pumping action that I think helps me shoot more accurately at moving targets, moreso than an auto does. It also gives you that pause that allows you to better re-assess your aim to ensure a better second shot if necessary. Oh yeah, they aren't as ammo finicky and are usually more reliable and cleanliness isn't as big an issue.

July 21, 2009, 11:10 PM	#21
mathman Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,531	Doesn't Ford win by default? I mean...didn't Chevy go bankrupt or something? puts on flame suit __________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak.

July 21, 2009, 11:28 PM	#22
gdeal Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 748	enough with the versus forget the 9 vs. 45. go with .40 Smith & Wesson or .357 Magnum. Ford makes better Trucks & Vans. Chevy makes better cars. Have you seen the new retro Camero? The Beatles will always Be. So let it be. I guess this thread can be closed now. pump for all pratical purposes. Benelli Auto just for fun.

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