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Old July 1, 2021, 05:05 AM   #26
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Don't worry you'll get past that--and instead will have to deal with which room or basement will you entirely fill with safes.
I have one upstairs bedroom and my basement full of RC planes, so I’m already past the lack of room stage.
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Old July 17, 2021, 05:54 PM   #27
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OK, I have my 250-3000. On order is a 257 Weatherby. I was going to content myself with loading 25-20 for my brother's '92s, but I ran into a Marlin 27S. So I'll have almost a full quarter bore collection. Apologies to 25-06 aficionados, but it's too close to Roy Weatherby's laser. Maybe later. Lots of work ongoing on other bores, but not much in 25 since the Weatherby in 1944. Well, I will give it a run.
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Old July 18, 2021, 04:14 PM   #28
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I have an M94 in 25-35 that some dude tried to pawn off as a true Winchester short rifle. Took a half magazine rifle with 26" barrel and applied a hacksaw making the barrel 20". Showed him where he went wrong and got into the rifle fairly cheaply. The barrel is as shiny and a brand new dime. The barrel needs to be crowned but I haven't gotten around to doing that. I have two "BOBs", a Ruger #1 that is a tack driver with 100 gr. Norma ammo. I wonder when Norma dropped that stuff. One hundred and twenty rounds and the dies to reload the ammo came with the gun. Still have 106 of those rounds left. I shot a couple of five shot groups that were under a half inch. Never have tried to work up a load for that rifle. Another .257 "BOB is my Winchester M70 Featherweight. So far it hasn't shown me much regarding accuracy. Maybe when the range dries out later this year I'll see what I can do with it. I also have two Ruger #1Bs in 25-06. One is very accurate and the other so far is a dog. I've just been too busy working with a couple other cartridges to bother with the .25s.
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Old July 19, 2021, 11:44 AM   #29
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I have a TC in 25-35 although it is a pistol.
It is a sweet shooting round and a grand old cartridge.
I would love to find a rifle barrel in 25-35.
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Old July 23, 2021, 08:04 AM   #30
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quarterbores

Don't forget the

.256 Winchester magnum a derivative of the 357 magnum brass necked to 25 caliber
originally designed for the Ruger Hawkeye has become one of my favorite plinkers in the contender
It's no deer cartridge but it's fun to shoot!
absolutely love the 250 Savage,tho
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Old July 23, 2021, 09:37 AM   #31
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Berger has a new elite hunter bullet out for the followers of quarter bores.
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Old July 23, 2021, 12:41 PM   #32
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That TC is Sweet!
I guess the 250 is within the pressure limits of a Contender then.
I have a Winchester 250 Silver Tip in my bullet collection, very cool.
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Old July 28, 2021, 12:21 PM   #33
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Stagpanther, I will have to find some of those new Bergers. Have not located any yet. Right now I have Barnes 100 TTSX and Hornady Interbond 110 for the Weatherby. Hornady load workup is ready for the range.

Yesterday I picked up a Marlin 27S 25-20 and a Weatherby Mark V .257 Weatherby Magnum. Both nice. I will have to date the Weatherby, but it does have the 9 lug bolt. The scope it mounts is interesting: Swarovski 8x56 Habicht Nova. The "Nova" indicates a padded spring loaded eyepiece to protect those of poor shooting form. Pretty nice piece of glass in any case.

I have had two range sessions with the Savage Model 20. I had some Sierra Varminter 75s that didn't quite hit Sierra's 3,300, but they did go 3,234/7.6 over a max load of Re-15. The only 100s I could find were some cheap PRVI. Using Sierra's data, they did match max velocity at 2,920/2.9. I was shooting way high, and finally realized the aperture insert OD was too large to allow the sight to adjust all the way down. Corrected that and did better. Next time out I have some good 'ole Remington CoreLokt 100s that I backed off to what should be the original 2,800 fps load.

"Bob" seems to be running good with IMR-4955, and I have a 25-20 workup with (unfortunately discontinued) Speer 75 FP over IMR-4198. Much fun!
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Old July 29, 2021, 05:46 AM   #34
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I've seen that "recoiling tattoo prevention ocular piece" on another scope, it was a European scope, I think it was a Zeiss or Leica. Bergers are in high demand, many of their bullets are hard to find.
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Old July 29, 2021, 10:43 AM   #35
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Other quarter bores ...

How 'bout choosing between the .25-06 and the .257 WBY?
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Old July 29, 2021, 11:47 AM   #36
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I have yet to shoot either one, although I have a workup for the Weatherby of 110 Hornady Interbond over IMR-7828SSC waiting for a chance to get to the range. Just looking at the numbers, I doubt a hunter would feel disadvantaged with either in the field. The Weatherby is a little faster - enough to make a difference? Maybe. Cost of brass and powder efficiency favors the 25-06, so take your pick. Me, I wanted a Mark V and a gen-u-yne Roy Weatherby cartridge, so that's what I got.
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Old July 29, 2021, 01:20 PM   #37
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I have yet to shoot either one, although I have a workup for the Weatherby of 110 Hornady Interbond over IMR-7828SSC waiting for a chance to get to the range. Just looking at the numbers, I doubt a hunter would feel disadvantaged with either in the field. The Weatherby is a little faster - enough to make a difference? Maybe. Cost of brass and powder efficiency favors the 25-06, so take your pick. Me, I wanted a Mark V and a gen-u-yne Roy Weatherby cartridge, so that's what I got.
Yeah, that was sorta my thought too.

Ballistics seem to favor the Weatherby, but cost and practicality seem to favor the 25-06.
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Old July 30, 2021, 10:01 AM   #38
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Some old 257W have a 1-12 twist, I would favor a 25-06 with it's 1-10 over that.
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Old August 1, 2021, 07:49 AM   #39
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Thus far i have 3 quarter bore hunting rifles.
First being a Ruger 77 MKII in 257 Roberts. Using PPU 7X57 Mauser cases run through a full length 257 Roberts die, brass was cheap & plentiful before this last crunch.
I'm loading to +P standards. Coyotes HATE the 90gr Sierra BlitzKings.
And deer have been taken cleanly with 100 & 115gr Nosler Ballistic Tips, 115gr Berger VLD, and 120gr HPBT GameKings.

My second venture is my Stevens 200. Originally 7mm-08, i reamed the chamber to AI. I'm glad i don't own a borescope, as after 6,000+ rounds the throat was to the point i couldn't touch the lands with a 140gr bullet. I happened accross an "over run special" from E. R. Shaw. 24" Savage small shank, sporter, polished, blued in 250 Savage.
Because i picked it up from their shop, i paid $100 for it.
It has been a joy to shoot! I usually load everything from 75gr Sierra HP Varminter through 100gr Ballistic Tips.

Rifle #3 was kind of an accident...
I ended up buying another E.R. Shaw barrel. This time a 24" in 257 Roberts for $100. Having bought the barrel, i needed an action. I happened onto a new Savage 111 for $399.
Enter Pacific Tool & Gauge having a sale on reamers.
Rifle is now a 257 Roberts AI. Planned bullets with this rifle are 115gr Ballistic Tip & Berger VLD. Along with the 120gr Partition & Sierra HPBT GameKing.

After much go back & forth with other match shooters, i've decided to chamber my benchrest rifle in 250 Savage. Most of my shooting is 400 yards & less.
The Shilen barrel is still being anxiously awaited on. Then i can put together & send off for the stock to be made.

The "laser" in 257 would be the Lazzeroni 6.53 Scramjet.

The new Berger bullets out are too long to stabilize in the standard 1:10 twist barrels.
You need a fast twist 1:7.5 to shoot them along with the 131gr Blackjack Ace.
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Old August 1, 2021, 09:23 AM   #40
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Talking about quarter bores, I have three Marlin 27S in 25-20. Why Three - don't ask other than they are fun to shoot. As for 257 Roberts and being based of 57 Mauser case. I have two 6.5X57 mm Mauser's, One is a rimmed case 6.5X57R for a European combination gun 12 ga. over the 6.5X57R and a T38 re-barreled and chambered in 6.5X57mm (semi-rimmed). I reload with the same dies only change the shell holders.

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Old August 2, 2021, 04:17 AM   #41
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Could never find a used 250. Such 99s are heirlooms in this neck of the woods. Although I do have 25-06 and a 25-35. In my experiments although the 1/4 bore 06 is far and away faster in velocity than a 270 win it isn't quite as accurate. Just a smidgen less off the mark between the two benched rest at 100 yards. (distance I typically shoot in the field) One other draw back with the 1/4 bore 06. When hand loaded to MAX and than some velocity's. Its bullets are overwhelmingly tissue destroyers. Just my thoughts on the subject.
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Old August 2, 2021, 10:33 PM   #42
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This thread has appeared at a very opportune time. I was just discussing calibers with the guy that use to run the rifle league I plan to shoot in during the winter and the conversation started with me stating that as far as I know I will be the only one shooting a 223.

So he proceeded to tell me that when the league started nearly everyone was shooting 300Win Mags., then the second year most had switched to a 308 and that lasted a few years and then everyone moved to the 6.5 and now most are shooting some form of 6mm

So I started to wonder why none was shooting a 25 so I got home and looked thru Hodgdon and came upon this 250 Savage and really wondered why it wasn't being used as they are only shooting out to 300 yards.

Now I currently have a Savage Model 11 looking for a build and thought I too would go the 6mm route until last night when I stumbled upon the 250 Savage. My question is Why Not? Wouldn't it fit in between the 6mm and the 6.5?

I'm new to this so politely explain why this doesn't play.
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Old August 3, 2021, 10:42 AM   #43
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I've always had a spot on my wish list for a a 25 WSSM--might get around to it one of these days.
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Old August 3, 2021, 10:55 PM   #44
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The 257 weatherby is my all time favorite caliber. Handloads with reloader 26 push it into another realm. I'm launching the 117gr sst @3440fps and the 100gr ttsx @ 3625. Both are absolutely deadly but the sst buck the wind better.
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@ KMW1954,

When i mentioned building a match rifle to several i was shooting with, i was told repeatedly by several people to "buy a known winning rifle in 6BR"!

Anyone that knows me, knows i'm not that guy!

Finally settled on a 250 Savage build. Shooting is mostly 400 yards & under.
IBS, UBR, Groundhog, Deer shoots.

Found Savage donor action.
26" Shilen barrel from Northland Shooters Supply along with ground barrel nut.
Was told 12 weeks. At 17 weeks & counting.
PTG ground 2 pin recoil lug.
Rifle Basix trigger.
EABCO trigger guard.
EABCO single feed loading ramp.
EGW one piece zero MOA base.
EGW Keystone high 30mm rings
Flatline Ops scope level.
Sightron SIII 10-50X60 LRTD, bought used.

After mocking together, it's off to get a BR stock built.
There is a local shop that is known for good work that offered to do one for me for $200.

Looking for good brass now. Will probably end up necking up 22-250 brass.

Short range (to 200 yards) i'm planning on the Sierra 75gr HP Varminter.
For the 300 & 400 yard matches i' m planning on the 110gr ELDX, or Tipped GameKing.

I also have some 100gr MatchKings on the way.
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Old August 4, 2021, 08:27 AM   #46
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std7mag,

That sounds very close to what I was thinking to do with the Savage Model 11 barreled action I just bought. At first I was thinking of barreling it in the new 6 ARC as one of our range customers has been giving me all his brass. Then I thought maybe a 6BR as it uses the same bolt head as the 243 this is already chambered in.

But yes indeed the 250 Savage looks very intriguing for a 300yd paper shooter. Besides like you say. it will be away from the crowd!
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The 257 weatherby is my all time favorite caliber. Handloads with reloader 26 push it into another realm. I'm launching the 117gr sst @3440fps and the 100gr ttsx @ 3625. Both are absolutely deadly but the sst buck the wind better.
Supposedly it was Roy Weatherby's personal favorite, and long-time Weatherby pros also claim it's the most accurate of all the WBY cartridges.
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Old August 4, 2021, 10:17 AM   #48
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@std7mag,

Go to Black Jack bullets and take a look at what they're doing with the .25 caliber. Some impressive stuff for sure, that only rifle loonies would understand.
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Taylorce1,

I have a few. Problem is all my barrels have a 1:10 twist.
So they won't stabilize.

Others are finding out that they don't group that great at 400 yards & under.
Once you get past 500 yards is where they really shine!
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std7mag,

I didn't think the 131BJ bullet would work for you, just implying there are people just as odd as you. I love the .250 Savage and have a nice 6 lb rifle buit on a Charles Daly mini action. I have to watch COAL because the magazine is a little short, but it's a cool little rifle.
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