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Old February 10, 2021, 07:01 AM   #26
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the bbl should be marked what gauge it is, and..what it can handle. most likely 2.5 and 3" shells.
I have not used a magnifying glass on it yet. But so far I have not found any markings on it at all. Is there a specific place to look?

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Old February 10, 2021, 07:06 AM   #27
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if its an adjustable c-lect choke, itll have choke markings in increments... cyl-ic-mod-full as you tighten or loosen. if not, its a removable single choke.
I did not notice any increment markings on it. But I'm thinking that it is a single choke. Because I can look straight into the barrel. If you look at the picture (I know it's not a good picture) you'll see what I mean.

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Old February 10, 2021, 11:33 AM   #28
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You haven't noticed any markings on the gun, either.
Chokes don't restrict the bore. You can see down the barrel of any choked gun.
You still haven't told us the bore size.
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Old February 10, 2021, 12:31 PM   #29
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Choke constrictions are generally so slight that they're largely invisible to the eye. You often need a caliper to determine if there's a choke in the barrel if it's not marked.
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Old February 10, 2021, 03:34 PM   #30
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sounds like your gun is NOT the select choke system. as mentioned before, Mossberg did make a gun with interchangeable chokes, such as yours. marks should be on the left rear of bbl.
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Old February 10, 2021, 04:37 PM   #31
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Choke came off pretty easily. Cheap caliper measured . 40 65

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Old February 11, 2021, 06:18 AM   #32
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do you have any ammo laying around. what fits in the gun? its obviously not a 12ga. maybe a 16 or 20?
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Old February 11, 2021, 08:12 AM   #33
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do you have any ammo laying around. what fits in the gun? its obviously not a 12ga. maybe a 16 or 20?
Ya its definitely not a 12 gauge. All I have is some 410 ammo left over from a Taurus Judge. But have not tried it yet.

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Old February 11, 2021, 12:30 PM   #34
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So I found a box of 410. Was able to get one into the chamber. Felt as if it seated correctly. Put one in magazine. Pushed bolt forward and it picked up the round and put it in the chamber. I then pulled back on the bolt and the round was extracted correctly. I was only able to get three into the internal magazine. Not sure if that is the correct amount, but it didn't feel like I could get one more in. I'm going to try and find a local gunsmith to look at it and see if it's safe to shoot.

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3 sounds about right for the internal box magazine. Don't know about the 20, but the 16s and 12s only held 2 in their mags (which also made them Fed Migratory bird compliant)
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Old February 11, 2021, 02:49 PM   #36
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sounds like a 410. good.
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Old February 11, 2021, 02:50 PM   #37
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are your safe/fire indicators intact in the stock?
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Old February 11, 2021, 05:36 PM   #38
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are your safe/fire indicators intact in the stock?
I didn't notice. I'll have to look at the area around the safety. I did figure out how the safety worked. Knew it had to have one and there's this lever looking piece behind the bolt. Wasn't a lever. It moved side to side. Pushed it sideways, pulled the trigger. Nothing. Pushed it back and the trigger moved back and click.

I quess I would like to know if there are any manuals around to take it apart to clean and lube. Might want to try and refinish the wood also.

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Old February 11, 2021, 06:46 PM   #39
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open the bolt, pull the trigger, pull the bolt out. its that simple. just make sure you don't twist the bolt after you take it out. it must realign going in....with the trigger pulled as it does.
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Old February 11, 2021, 06:56 PM   #40
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open the bolt, pull the trigger, pull the bolt out. its that simple. just make sure you don't twist the bolt after you take it out. it must realign going in....with the trigger pulled as it does.
I have a ultrasonic cleaner that can clean the bolt with. Is there any more takedown on the bolt other just taking it out? I also noticed that the plate on the bottom of what I think is the magazine looks like it may be easily removed. Any springs I need to watch out for?

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Old February 13, 2021, 09:54 AM   #41
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As you can see in the picture I got the bolt out. Put it in my ultrasonic cleaner with Otis cleaning fluid. For about two hours with heat. Quite a bit of crap was in the bottom of the tank. I'm going to do a further clean more detailed clean. Is there any further takedown?

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You may find this link interesting...http://www.jnjonlineauction.com/deta...83-D-410-GAUGE
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Old February 13, 2021, 03:47 PM   #43
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You may find this link interesting...http://www.jnjonlineauction.com/deta...83-D-410-GAUGE
Thanks, Have to clean mine up to get that kind of money.

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Old February 14, 2021, 10:47 AM   #44
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that's all you need to take it down.
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Old February 14, 2021, 11:36 AM   #45
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Remember not to use steel shot in this gun, as it may bulge the barrel.
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Old February 14, 2021, 12:28 PM   #46
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So yesterday I decided to work on getting this gun apart. The biggest screw on the bottom was the toughest. Had to put a little bit of Kroil on it and let it soak. Looks like this gun had been apart a few times. All of the screw's have been buggers up. Did that on last Thursday. Had to put the stock in a vise to hold it still. Then used a screwdriver with a wrench to help in turning force to get it loose. Two other wood screws and she was separated. Any ideas on what the wood is? I sanded it a little. Almost feels like plastic. But I know from its age that it can't be. And any ideas on how to finish both the wood and metal parts?

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Old February 14, 2021, 04:00 PM   #47
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Could be walnut. If not, it is a hardwood. Linseed oil was once used on walnut to finish stocks. You could rub those scuff marks with a drop of linseed oil.
Safety note: Linseed oil is "chemically active", plastizes wood, and has been proven to spontaneously combust, when stored in contact with diesel fuel.
Rags with linseed oil, tossed inside a shop vac, later used to vacumn a diesel spill, wait 12-24 hours, caused a fire at a huge datacenter.
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Old February 14, 2021, 05:02 PM   #48
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I do remember rubing down the stock of my dad's 30-06 with linseed oil. I did do a light sanding with I think 150 grain sandpaper and it turned that lightish gray color. Probably have to sand the whole thing down to make it match. And then find a small can of linseed oil to finish it. Then on to the metal parts. I have never finished a gun before so haven't got a clue where to start.

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the gun in its aged look, is classic. I wouldn't bugger it up one bit. clean it. oil it. shoot it. enjoy it.
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Old February 14, 2021, 06:59 PM   #50
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could that plastic stuff you feel be someones old bedding?
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