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Old December 14, 2007, 02:33 PM   #1
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Iver Johnson .22 revolver info please?

I am in the process of getting a Iver Johnson .22 revolver from my father. He says the ser# is L282xx. Can anyone tell me anything about this pistol. IIRC it is an 8 shot .22LR break top revolver that he has had as long as I can remember and I am 51! Any info would be of great interest. It has been years since I have seen it but it was a worn good condition gun.

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Old December 14, 2007, 05:42 PM   #2
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Could be several different models. the Viking and Trailsman 66 come to mind but there were more. Not real high quality guns.
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Old December 23, 2007, 10:19 PM   #3
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Just recieved it today!

On the left side of the barrel it says ".22 supershot sealed eight" and below right near the pivot point it has "IFJ" like a proof mark.

Any idea of value? about 50% bluing and some pitting.
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Old December 23, 2007, 10:55 PM   #4
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75.00 at the most.
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Old December 23, 2007, 11:29 PM   #5
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Blue Book of Gun Values 28th ed.
Supershot Sealed 8, 22lr, 8 shot, break open, blue, adj. sights, checkered wood grips. Mfg. 1931-57. Value of 60% gun (lowest listed)-$120
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Old December 23, 2007, 11:45 PM   #6
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Try to get that for one when in the real world you can get better ones for 100.
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Old December 24, 2007, 02:15 AM   #7
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The Supershot Sealed 8 is a very good gun. Very well made and very accurate.
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Old December 24, 2007, 02:41 PM   #8
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Thank you

I appreciate all the help. I have no intention of selling it as my dad has had it longer than me. I just like to know what I have.

Thank you all for the help.

Bob

P.S. Is there any way to determine it's date of birth?
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Old December 24, 2007, 03:13 PM   #9
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Old December 24, 2007, 03:53 PM   #10
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I just got a copy of Goforth's book, so I will answer on the date. According to the book, that gun was made in 1946. He says the numbers in that era are not certain, but it is the best information available. The "sealed" refers to the counter-bored chambers that recess the case heads and prevent any "blowout" from the rimfire cartridges from harming the shooter.

That practice started in an era when .22 high velocity cartridges were first being made; sometimes the case was not strong enough to hold the pressure, and the rim burst. S&W did the same on their .22 revolvers for many years.

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Old December 25, 2007, 05:03 PM   #11
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I also just picked up a family Iver Johnsons 22, Trailsman 66 Model # K7190. Can you tell me when this one might have been made ? It was manufactured in Itchburg MA.
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Old January 2, 2008, 08:19 PM   #12
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SAM thats Fitchburg Mass. they have been out of business for many yrs.1980s???but those were good practical guns.many of use had them it was made after ww2
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Old January 2, 2008, 08:22 PM   #13
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sealed eight

bob1911:I have one and they are good inexpensive guns.many of use older ones grew up on iver and h&r.
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Old July 7, 2008, 06:31 PM   #14
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iver johnsons trailsman 66

That makes no sense, My great great uncle was a police officer during the depression. His service relvoler was an iver johnson trailsmen 66. It has to be worth more than 75.00 I'll sell the metal for more than that.
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Old July 7, 2008, 06:56 PM   #15
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No, you are the one who makes no sense. The Iver Johnson Trailsman 66 came out in 1956. The Depression was pretty much over when WW II broke out in the late 1930s and early 1940s.

I also doubt a cop of any size jurisdiction would carry a .22 as a service pistol, but he might have been in a small town where anything in the holster would do.

Probably worth more than $75, these days. People will buy anything.
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Old July 7, 2008, 07:44 PM   #16
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It has to be worth more than 75.00 I'll sell the metal for more than that.
Scrap is up right now but it ain't that up. My ex has an Iver Johnson Trailsman 66 that was her dads but it needs a hammer and bolt. It was a pretty good shooter when it worked tho. IMHO an H&R 999 is a much better gun.
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What type of ammunition does this thing take? There are so many options in 22's it makes me almost dizzy. (I normally shoot a 38 special which has about 2 options).

If anyone knows, I'd appreciate it. I am looking at getting one as an inexpensive plinking gun.

Thanks!
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Old May 10, 2009, 01:46 PM   #18
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22 pistol

any 22 as they were made after hi speed was common.they were a well made gun both H&R and IVER.I have been to the Iver plant in Fitchberg,nice people then.those guns would be a fine inexpensive gun even now.Iver ended
up in AR.
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Just read a book on the Robert Kennedy shooting in LA. Sirhan B Sirhan used an 8 shot Iver Johnson .22 caliber revolver. 10 bullets were fired and the other shooter was not caught.
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Old June 20, 2010, 11:14 PM   #20
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The gun found on Sirhan Sirhan was an Iver Johnson Cadet 55-A, serial number H-53725.

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Old April 27, 2011, 08:00 PM   #21
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I just found a IFJ 22supershot eight revolver while cleaning my fathers house. I've seen diff. values but I would like to find out when it was made. I know some were between 1931 & 1957. The ser# is 20110 found on the bottom of the trigger guard. Thanks
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Old June 6, 2011, 09:07 PM   #22
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how do i go about telling the age of my 22 supershot sealed eight
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Old June 6, 2011, 11:19 PM   #23
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Welcome to The Firing Line!

Sorry I can't help with dating your IJ. I have a Target Sealed 8 and they are fun guns, but I don't get mine out much. If you open a new thread you might have a better chance at getting your question answered. Many will see the thread start date and not even open it. I looked only because I own one.

I wonder if this necro-thread sets some kind of record for once and done posters opening old threads?
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Old June 7, 2011, 01:09 AM   #24
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how do i go about telling the age of my 22 supershot sealed eight
The first step is to list the serial number ("x" out the last two digits if you prefer) and give a few specific details about the gun, i.e. post some of the barrel markings EXACTLY as they appear, and tell whether it's a solid frame or top break.

Someone will look it up in Goforth's book and post here.
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Old June 8, 2011, 09:22 PM   #25
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Remember, the number on the trigger guard may not be the correct number. Pull the left grip and post the number and any letter prefix, it will be stamped on the left grip frame.
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