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Old March 5, 2014, 11:46 AM   #101
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Best revolver of all time,

in my view, is a model 27 in a 4" ...( a slight edge over the model 19 in a 4" )..

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Old March 5, 2014, 11:59 AM   #102
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I've got a lot of revolvers ( really ) & BTW... I do like my 4" Stainless GP-100 but... "the best" of mine is this... this one has a trigger like nothing else I've ever fired




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Old March 5, 2014, 01:29 PM   #103
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Nope. While great, the short barrel on the 2.5" Model 19 messes up balance and pointability in the same way that the 6" barrel on the Model 19 messes up balance and pointability.
Mike I just double checked and I'm correct I don't have a 4" 19.
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Old March 5, 2014, 03:00 PM   #104
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"Mike I just double checked and I'm correct I don't have a 4" 19."

You don't have all three?

What a sad, sad life you live...

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Old March 5, 2014, 03:56 PM   #105
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What a sad, sad life you live...
Don't I know it, limiting myself to only 10 357s has left me destitute. As I said the only actual 4" 357 I have is a stainless Python.
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Old March 5, 2014, 10:11 PM   #106
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I don't know, but I'd agree that it's pretty darned good, as is its big brother, which I like even better, the Redhawk 4.2" (in .45 colt, please).

MWM - what, exactly, are we looking at there, please?
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Old March 5, 2014, 11:00 PM   #107
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"As I said the only actual 4" 357 I have is a stainless Python."

Souless steel with a ventilated rib?

My God, man, have you no shame? No dignity?
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Old March 6, 2014, 12:32 PM   #108
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In answer to the original question...NO!

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Old March 6, 2014, 01:35 PM   #109
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Souless steel with a ventilated rib?
Yep even has plywood grips and it matches my dick two

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Old March 6, 2014, 02:16 PM   #110
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Bill Ruger, while proud of his first double action revolver, the Security Six, and its siblings, decided that it couldn't stand the constant pounding from the 357 cartridge, so the GP100 was designed to handle that.
I was positive I remember reading somewhere that the Six Series showed deterioration after continuous firing of full power 357 loads, and one of the reasons the GP100 was developed was to address that issue. I have spent several hours looking through my collection of information on the Six series, and GP100, and cant find that reference. I will back off the statement I made, that the Six Series cant handle continuous firing of full power 357 loads.
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Old March 6, 2014, 03:29 PM   #111
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Old March 6, 2014, 07:58 PM   #112
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The best ever is probably the S&W L frame. I like the Model 19 best tho.
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Old March 7, 2014, 12:08 AM   #113
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It for sure would be in the top 5.

I love mine.
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Old March 7, 2014, 12:16 AM   #114
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Not THE greatest...

I prefer the prior Security Six series of Ruger revolvers, actually. My vote for greatest Double Action ever is the four inch Smith & Wesson Combat Magnum - model 19.

The GP 100 is a fine revolver in many regards, but I do NOT like the full length under-lug on revolvers. It simply adds weight for no purpose. And for those who want to claim it keeps the muzzle down in recoil, it also makes it slower to get back ON target following recoil. The larger cylinder is more mass to start and stop every time one fires a round as well.

But everyone has their own tastes and do not benefit from my vast experience and keen intellect. (Anyone put off by this statement should check on the phrase, "... dry wit ...")
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Old March 8, 2014, 12:34 AM   #115
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Well, I got to see a Wiley Clapp gp100 today at a big sporting goods shop.

Long story short....$850 out the door? Meh.

Sloppy crane/frame fit, large gap
Large burr above forcing cone as others have described
Mediocre trigger
Loose feeling
Cheesy fiber optic front sight

I did like the grips and the finish looked like it would stand up to a lot. But honestly, quality has been dropping across the board on revolvers it seems.

If my trooper mkIII had a ruger firing pin assembly, I'd be a happy camper....and I just paid $650 for a 586-2 which hopefully will be here next week so I feel no loss in not having a gp100 in the stable....maybe if an older blued or stainless model comes up that's as well fitted as my sp101 for under $500 I will snap it up, but not if there is a nice s&w or colt next to it.

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Old March 8, 2014, 12:50 AM   #116
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Well, I got to see a Wiley Clapp gp100 today at a big sporting goods shop.

Long story short....$850 out the door? Meh.
Whoa!!! Mine was $690 plus tax, just under $740 out the door. I wouldn't buy it at $850. I love mine, but that's steep!
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Old March 8, 2014, 03:03 AM   #117
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I'll bite and sign off on that it's the greatest one still in production.
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Old March 8, 2014, 05:53 AM   #118
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I owned/have owned every revolver ever made. I bought two in the early eighties, a model 19 Smith and a Police service six. I still own both. The Smith cost me $300, the Ruger was $100. That was what I remember paying for them 30 years ago. My GP100 cost $500 about 5 years ago, and is a fine revolver. The best ever made, no. here's a pic of the Model 19 and Ruger:


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Old March 8, 2014, 08:55 AM   #119
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I have been following this since the thread started and it has been interesting. The problem is its all personal opinion and its worth what it’s written on.
I would like some rich guy to buy several guns that compare to the Ruger and shoot 10,000 rounds through each of magnums and see which works best. New in the box 19 and 27, Colt trooper and python and even a Taurus.
Now that would be fun.
Then again that would be worthless since it would only be a test of 1 of each type.
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Old March 8, 2014, 07:51 PM   #120
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Korth?
Chiappa Rhino?
Llama?
JP Sauer & Sohn?
Mateba?
Seville?
Astra?
Freedom?
S&W Governor?
Magnum Research BFR?
Excam?
USFA?
Arminius?
Merwin & Hulbert?
DMAX?

How about the Taurus Raging Thirty, the double action .30 Carbine-chambered revolver? Did you own one of those?
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Old March 8, 2014, 07:58 PM   #121
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That's a bold statement. I would like to see a list of all the revolvers you have actually owned. Especially since some like the Mateba are extremely rare.
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Old March 8, 2014, 10:21 PM   #122
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I owned/have owned every revolver ever made.
I have only bought one brand new revolver... and I'm pretty sure you didn't own that one... The rest were used , so maybe you owned them.
That being said...
You must have one REALLY big safe!
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I owned/have owned every revolver ever made.

And all of the Colt, Navy cap and ball revolvers. Man you must have deep pockets. Where do you live in Indiana, I would pay to see that collection
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Bill Ruger, while proud of his first double action revolver, the Security Six, and its siblings, decided that it couldn't stand the constant pounding from the 357 cartridge, so the GP100 was designed to handle that.

I was positive I remember reading somewhere that the Six Series showed deterioration after continuous firing of full power 357 loads, and one of the reasons the GP100 was developed was to address that issue. I have spent several hours looking through my collection of information on the Six series, and GP100, and cant find that reference. I will back off the statement I made, that the Six Series cant handle continuous firing of full power 357 loads.
I'm not sure where that Security Six rumor got started, but that is not the case. They are hearty and built for packing. My 79 Security Six has a tighter lockup than my GP with far more rounds through it.

I like them both, but they are two different frame sizes. The GP handles the recoil better because the weight is pushed more to the front end. The security Six is sleek and has the balance/size of a k-frame Smith. The Sec Six was made during a time when revolvers ruled the world. When a revolver had to be packed all day, bulk and weight were not always the best option.

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