Going to be in IL & WI

Sailor1911 · August 11, 2011, 09:46 PM

OK, so I am going to be traveling in WI and IL. I plan on having my pistol with me. I understand I can't C & C in either State. But, once I cross into those States, what do I need to do to stay within their laws?

And, In IL, I will be in Crook County and within Chicago City Limits some of the time.

Any obligation to inform as to CCH holder or possession of arms in the vehicle?

Thanks

mrray13 · August 11, 2011, 09:53 PM

In Illinois, you'll need to place the firearm, unloaded, into a case and secure it. In vehicle, the case can be the glovebox, or even a center console.

YMMV in Chicago and or Cook county.

sigcurious · August 11, 2011, 11:10 PM

Chicago is crafty about their ordinance. There is a clause for interstate transportation,

8-20-090 Interstate transportation of firearms
It shall not be a violation of this chapter if a person transporting a firearm or ammunition while engaged in interstate travel is in compliance with 18 U.S.C.A 926A. There shall be a rebuttable presumption that any person within the city for more than 24 hours is not engaged in interstate travel, and is subject to the provisions of this chapter.

The way I read that is that technically after 24hrs if you were found in possession a cop could take your firearm and fine you then you would have to go to court to get it reversed or pay the fine and lose your firearm. In practice, I imagine it would be up to the cop on site whether they even believed you had been in the city less than 24hrs, which makes it iffy to me. and I wouldn't want to find out how long it takes the CPD to return a firearm.

I was told during my CFP class, hard lockable(doesn't have to be locked) case, unloaded with the ammunition in a separate container, ie no loaded mag in the same container as the pistol. I cannot find documentation for this, in the Chicago Ordinance, it may be from Cook County or just something my CFP instructor came to believe. Either way, I'd go fully inaccessible storage for your time in Chicago/Cook County.

Sailor1911 · August 12, 2011, 10:03 PM

What about mag size? My 9 mm Sig is 15 count. The Kimber 45 cal is 7. I have a lockable case and I also have a console safe. Guess I can lock the guns in those and keep the ammo in a separate case in the back of the truck.

Suppose I'll have to buy a metal ball bat for protection!

sigcurious · August 12, 2011, 10:55 PM

Cook county stipulates 10rds, Chicago's conflicts at 12 rds, but since Chicago is in Cook county, 10 is the safe number.

bikerbill · August 20, 2011, 01:36 PM

My wife's family lives in Illinois and, while I try to avoid going there (for firearms related issues, NOT her family ...

) when we do visit, the gun is locked in the trunk, in a locked case, with the ammo in a separate case ... not sure I have to get quite that elaborate, but I do anyhow ... I hope IL residents keep plugging away, your pols will have to cave sooner or later (see Wisconsin).

Jo6pak · August 20, 2011, 09:45 PM

In WI the pistol needs to be unloaded and cased. No magazine restrictions

August 11, 2011, 09:46 PM	#1
Sailor1911 Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 22	Going to be in IL & WI OK, so I am going to be traveling in WI and IL. I plan on having my pistol with me. I understand I can't C & C in either State. But, once I cross into those States, what do I need to do to stay within their laws? And, In IL, I will be in Crook County and within Chicago City Limits some of the time. Any obligation to inform as to CCH holder or possession of arms in the vehicle? Thanks

August 20, 2011, 01:36 PM	#6
bikerbill Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2007 Location: Lago Vista TX Posts: 2,425	My wife's family lives in Illinois and, while I try to avoid going there (for firearms related issues, NOT her family ... ) when we do visit, the gun is locked in the trunk, in a locked case, with the ammo in a separate case ... not sure I have to get quite that elaborate, but I do anyhow ... I hope IL residents keep plugging away, your pols will have to cave sooner or later (see Wisconsin). __________________ "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." Albert Camus

August 20, 2011, 09:45 PM	#7
Jo6pak Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2010 Location: West Coast...of WI Posts: 1,663	In WI the pistol needs to be unloaded and cased. No magazine restrictions __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF contributor.

August 11, 2011, 09:53 PM	#2
mrray13 Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 911	In Illinois, you'll need to place the firearm, unloaded, into a case and secure it. In vehicle, the case can be the glovebox, or even a center console. YMMV in Chicago and or Cook county.

August 11, 2011, 11:10 PM	#3
sigcurious Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 2011 Posts: 1,755	Chicago is crafty about their ordinance. There is a clause for interstate transportation, 8-20-090 Interstate transportation of firearms It shall not be a violation of this chapter if a person transporting a firearm or ammunition while engaged in interstate travel is in compliance with 18 U.S.C.A 926A. There shall be a rebuttable presumption that any person within the city for more than 24 hours is not engaged in interstate travel, and is subject to the provisions of this chapter. The way I read that is that technically after 24hrs if you were found in possession a cop could take your firearm and fine you then you would have to go to court to get it reversed or pay the fine and lose your firearm. In practice, I imagine it would be up to the cop on site whether they even believed you had been in the city less than 24hrs, which makes it iffy to me. and I wouldn't want to find out how long it takes the CPD to return a firearm. I was told during my CFP class, hard lockable(doesn't have to be locked) case, unloaded with the ammunition in a separate container, ie no loaded mag in the same container as the pistol. I cannot find documentation for this, in the Chicago Ordinance, it may be from Cook County or just something my CFP instructor came to believe. Either way, I'd go fully inaccessible storage for your time in Chicago/Cook County.

August 12, 2011, 10:03 PM	#4
Sailor1911 Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 22	What about mag size? My 9 mm Sig is 15 count. The Kimber 45 cal is 7. I have a lockable case and I also have a console safe. Guess I can lock the guns in those and keep the ammo in a separate case in the back of the truck. Suppose I'll have to buy a metal ball bat for protection!

August 12, 2011, 10:55 PM	#5
sigcurious Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 2011 Posts: 1,755	Cook county stipulates 10rds, Chicago's conflicts at 12 rds, but since Chicago is in Cook county, 10 is the safe number.