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September 30, 2020, 06:02 PM | #51 | |
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September 30, 2020, 06:08 PM | #52 | |
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Do you know what happens when you take a teenie weenie screw driver and turn that little windage screw too far? It breaks off. That's the actual recommend way to change that little tiny leaf. S&W knows this, that's why on their last attempt to make the ulitmate L and K frame carry guns, known as the Night Guard they used a non-adjustable sight. I believe they are made by Cylinder and Slide. |
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September 30, 2020, 06:11 PM | #53 |
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Bob Munden's probably not a good person to reference in this case, he could do all kinds of things no normal human can do with a pistol!
As far as sights go if you look at the statistics nearly all self defense situations occur at very close range, the natural point of aim of the gun is way more important than the type of sight IMO. Look at your target, close your eyes draw and point your gun at it, open them, if your gun isn't pointed at the target you have the wrong gun in your hand. |
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September 30, 2020, 06:48 PM | #55 |
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Those are all daytime guns btw, don't see any night sights on any of them, fine if you don't go out after the sun sets.
My Smith 1911 has the brightest set of tritium sights I've ever seen, easily seen on the nightstand in the dark or in a parking lot at night. |
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September 30, 2020, 07:38 PM | #58 |
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The best revolvers have hammers. Zero discussion.
But I hope your enjoy your new gun.
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September 30, 2020, 07:51 PM | #59 |
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S&W model 14
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September 30, 2020, 07:53 PM | #60 |
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Looks like we have a lot of "shooters" here that need to learn how to use kentucky windage, shoot double action and align their sights with a short barrel revolver!
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September 30, 2020, 08:28 PM | #61 | |
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If that model is so great why’d they sell it for such a short period of time? Too much demand??? I hope the gun works out well for you but it seems like you’re just trying to justify the purchase with outrageous claims and not much experience. |
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October 1, 2020, 07:20 AM | #63 | |
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October 1, 2020, 07:37 AM | #64 |
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Whew...lotta heat in this discussion...but the OP's premise, loudly voiced, is that his choice of a snub-nosed revolver with a hog wallow rear sight is the be-all & end-all doesn't hold up.
Deer at ~100 yds...probably a scoped, long bbl'd revolver of proven accuracy makes more sense. Binking cans off the berm from 50 yds, maybe a standard duty sized revolver with adj. sights so it's pointing where you and your loads are looking. Targets at 25 & 50 yds...a good target sighted name brand revolver of proven accuracy... Serious social encounters at bad breath distances because you'd forgotten to pay attention to your surroundings and lost your sanity when you stopped for milk in the bad side of town...MAYBE a fixed sight gun of substantial caliber. But that feather weight cannon, so comfortable on the pants belt, will be a super-snarky-handful for any 2nd shots. All are personal choices which can and should be made; determined by the needs of the shooter and his targets. But to pick one underweight for caliber revolver with non-adj. sights as a universal panacea is ludicrous. Glad he likes the gun...but I predict it won't get much range time with substantial, read SD loads, because of the light weight/heavy recoil, and that it'll fade from regular use. YMMv, Rod, PS: forced to pick one revolver for all uses, I agree with 44 AMP, it'll never have a 2.5" bbl. My choice for this ridiculous scenario is a 4" bbl'd, M66 Smith: SS construction for weather, superb accuracy WITH ADJ. SIGHTS for load adjustments, enough weight to absorb recoil but not so much to deter daily carry, and a DA trigger that's the industry standard short of a custom gun. And I'll carry it OWB and dress around the gun for CC use...flame on brothers! Rod
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BEST IS A MATTER OF OPINION. OPINIONS ARE LIKE EXHAUST PIPES........WE ALL GOT ONE.
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October 1, 2020, 06:33 PM | #66 |
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Seems to me that a gun that big negates carrying it in a manner that makes a concealed hammer much of a benefit.
Also, it should be a .357. Even if your going to carry .38s most of the time, the ability to shoot magnums seems more beneficial than 1/8" of saved cylinder length. I'd pass it up for a nice 3" or 4" model 66. |
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Jerry does it greater distance, and you can see the bullet does not hit the balloon, just the steel plate. ' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk4RPsn8Zfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3XwizTqDw |
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rodfac in his post alluded to something that hasn't really been discussed: "...revolver with adj. sights so it's pointing where you and your loads are looking". With adjustable sights you can use the bullet weight/load that you want, and adjust the sights to match your POI. With what Steve calls "trench sights", POI will tell you what bullet weight/load will be closest to your POA. Simply no way a 110 - 125gr bullet and a 158gr bullet will have the same POI in relation to your POA.
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Thanks for posting the photo comparison. I need to get some bigger jeans then!
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Where most people come up with the "1/8" difference is looking at the case length specs where the .357 is 0.135" (just over 1/8") longer than the .38 special CASE. What they don't do as often is look at the difference in length of the LOADED ROUNDS. Max loaded length specs show a difference of 0.04" between the two. .357 is longer, sure, but NOT .135" as a loaded round, only .04" longer than the loaded .38 Spl. I fully agree that getting a gun chambered in .357 over .38 is the preferred option, just wanted to be clear that you aren't "saving" 1/8" going to a .38 Spl.
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https://youtu.be/XFZJuqsBMf0
Long winded video. In the first few minutes I put it in my pocket to show you can do it. The rest is just comparing it to other carry revolvers that I like. Weight and size wise this falls right in the middle. |
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I carried a gun that looks just like it for years. S&W Airweight Centennial M296. Only five shots... but in .44 Special. With the CorBon DPX 200 grain Barnes bullet load... it worked.
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October 3, 2020, 10:32 AM | #74 |
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I took her for a spin this morning. My standard load of a 165 flat nose cast bullet over a sprinkle of Bullseye shot point of aim. Hardness is 8brn.
It's more snappy than you might expect. This is no 686+. I'm very pleased with the accuracy and will carry those cast loads. |
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I do shoot double action 99% of the time. I learned it that way, shot PPC that way, and have no trouble.
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