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Old November 9, 2017, 10:03 AM   #1
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6.5 Creedmoor DO NOT BUY

Unless you've got a mile to shoot. Seriously...
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On another note had a sales person at Cabelas tell me the 6.5 Creedmoor has "terminal performance issues."
It was at that point I pulled out my cell phone showing him 40 hogs I've dropped over the past years using 6 different bullets. Everyone of them efficiently dropping Texas boars from 25-315 lbs. I wasn't trying to be a jerk, just informative in hopes he stops the myth of "poor terminal issues."
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Old November 9, 2017, 10:07 AM   #2
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Another instance of the difference between 'I heard" vs. reality.
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Old November 9, 2017, 10:41 AM   #3
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NRA's American Rifleman magazine (September 2017) took the 6.5 CM to Africa and With Hornady 143gr ELD-X and 120gr GMX cleanly and quickly killed Zebra, Gemsbok, Hartbeast, Blue Wildebeest and Springbok from 100 thru 515 yards. Recovered bullets expanded as advertised.
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Old November 9, 2017, 11:36 AM   #4
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I really dislike when someone that is supposed to be in the know hands out bad advice as part of their job. Sounds like he was using buzzwords to sound knowledgeable, "terminal performance issues".
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Old November 9, 2017, 12:30 PM   #5
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Certain cartridges fire magic bullets don't you know ?

For example, take a given bullet and fire it at an animal out of a .260 and the animal drops dead. Take the same bullet and fire it out of a 6.5 Swede and the animal drops dead. Take the same bullet and fire it out of a 6.5 Creed and it has "terminal performance issues".

I think it has something to do with the name. Some names just don't kill as well as other names.
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Old November 9, 2017, 12:51 PM   #6
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Well... if it makes any difference, a shooter with a 6.5 Creedmore bolt gun had a first shot hit at 1609 meters (aka1 mile) at our fun shoot ELD event a month ago at a 16” steel target.
Other shooters had very solid performance from 600 meters and above.
It’s a very solid system with match ammo.
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Old November 9, 2017, 01:01 PM   #7
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Has to be .30cal or above to perform in a terminally satisfactory manner... everyone knows that.
I’ve heard some eyebrow raising things when near the bun section of stores.
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Old November 9, 2017, 01:13 PM   #8
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Terminal ballistic performance on game is a function of bullet construction, sectional density, momentum, and diameter.

There are instances where some cartridges cannot perform with a given bullet due to case capacity constraints, or because of projectile size constraints, but it is funny when you hear someone say something silly about terminal performance.

A 6.5 creed, in my opinion, makes for an excellent medium game cartridge. By medium I mean large deer and below. In Colorado there is a .270 cal and a ft. lbs of energy requirement on Elk, moose etc. So law may dictate where you can and cannot use the 6.5. But on medium game I think it is a great option.

I am actually thinking about trying my 6mm remington AI on hogs. With 110 gr bullets I think it will do just fine.
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Old November 9, 2017, 01:27 PM   #9
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"...a sales person at Cabela's..." Is untrained and paid minimum wage.
Yet another reason not to get your education from YouTube. The idiot is an unsafe shooter. Loads the rifle without being ready to shoot and left the safety off. Get him kicked off a real range.
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Old November 9, 2017, 04:04 PM   #10
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Personally I don't see much difference between 6.5 CM and 7mm-08 or other such rounds.

Neither kicks much, both take heavy bullets (but the 7mm as a bit heavier ones.) The long range drop between them ain't worth losing sleep over either.

I pick the 7mm-08 cause that is what I have. I see no reason to have two guns that are so similar in ability.

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Old November 9, 2017, 06:47 PM   #11
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There are some that get the sixer-fife mike mike Creeder, and those that don't.
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Old November 9, 2017, 07:39 PM   #12
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Very Nice !!

... I could tell you were slightly let down... let down because you needed a longer range !

This weekend I break in mine.
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Old November 9, 2017, 09:19 PM   #13
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"There are some that get the sixer-fife mike mike Creeder, and those that don't."

Not really. Like any other cartridge, this super whammy jammer is limited by the laws of physics. It's not magical and can't perform significantly differently than similar cartridges already in use.
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Old November 9, 2017, 09:29 PM   #14
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... In Colorado there is a .270 cal and a ft. lbs of energy requirement on Elk, moose etc. So law may dictate where you can and cannot use the 6.5. But on medium game I think it is a great option...
This is the CO law: To legally hunt elk with a rifle in Colorado, you must use a rifle that fires expanding bullets with a minimum caliber of .24 cal. or 6mm, a minimum weight of 85 grains that delivers at least 1,000 ft. lbs. of energy at 100 yards.
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Old November 9, 2017, 09:49 PM   #15
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Ahh, thanks for the clarification. I could have sworn it was .27 cal.
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Old November 9, 2017, 10:07 PM   #16
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I think it is a great little rjob bud for hunting and paper. I don’t have one simplybecause I didn’t want to spend nearly 1$/ piece brass
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Old November 9, 2017, 10:22 PM   #17
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Ladder drug to the 6mm creed.
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Old November 14, 2017, 09:34 AM   #18
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I gotta say... my PSA PA65 upper fired some outstanding groups on my first outing with it.

Sub MOA 5rd groups with 5 different factory ammo's ... I am sold on the 6.5CM.

Best group of the day.

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Old November 14, 2017, 10:31 AM   #19
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Well that does it for 6.5, the bullet's are no good! :-)
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Old May 5, 2019, 03:29 PM   #20
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My X-bolt 6.5 shoots 1" groups at 200 yards. Off sand bags.
and I'm not professional

Can't imagine what it would do on a bipod.....
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Old May 5, 2019, 04:45 PM   #21
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,,,,,,,,,,"...a sales person at Cabela's..." Is untrained and paid minimum wage."

Ding,,Ding,,Ding! We have a winner!
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Old May 5, 2019, 07:08 PM   #22
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My X-bolt 6.5 shoots 1" groups at 200 yards. Off sand bags.
and I'm not professional

Can't imagine what it would do on a bipod.....
Sorry to hear you're getting such poor performance, the blur.

Once I got it sighted in, my 6.5 Creedmoor, shooting Hornady ELD Match rounds shot a sub-inch group with 4 rounds touching and one hole one quarter of an inch to the right at 100 yards.
I guess we'll have to try harder, the blur, as that's not very good performance according to the criteria from the Cabela's guy.
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Old May 5, 2019, 07:41 PM   #23
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Dang, I wish I knew that before investing in one as my do-all rifle for anything in the lower 48...
My Tikka shoots .4” 5-shot groups at 100yds with factory 140gr Hornady ammo. I think I’ll keep it around.

Also, I never listened to the “experts” at cabelas and stopped shopping there when bass pro bought them out. Bass pro priced everything so high. Same item would be 30-40% cheaper at cabelas. Cabelas never had the best prices to begin with, now it’s even worse. They don’t need my money. I support my local shops/dealers these days and if they don’t have it the internet does.
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My daddy told me if you buy a 6.5 you must be euro-peee-an who hate the flag and is allergic to apple pie.
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Old May 5, 2019, 10:47 PM   #25
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This reminds me of a guy I worked with in the mid 90's he tells me about the one pistol round that makes all others obsolete I ask him what grain bullet he says all of them the 45 and 9mm are done . Yes he found a Springfield 40 XD and a salesman that knows all about it and has one for sale.

I think I will hang on to my 30-30
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