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Old June 19, 2019, 07:07 PM   #26
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I really enjoy my old 3" Bulldog. I finally got it back from Charter Arms after they replaced the Stratford barrel with a Shelton barrel. It went from shooting 3 1/2" left at 20 yards to only 1 1/2" left at 20 yards; with 15 yards 1" left and everything closer hitting center of target. Both barrels seem to like my 215 gr wc, as they hit right in the center of the target elevation wise.
Thanks for your post. I have had 3 fixed sight guns that shot left me. Two Taurus model 82s 38 Specials and an original H&R 32 mag revolver that shot about 10" left.

All I did was very slightly widen the rear site notch by filing a little on the right side of the sight groove. Then test fire. File more if needed. Just go slow. Then once you are centered and happy use a little touch up blue where you did your work. It also for me at least gives a better sight picture I can pick up faster.
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Old June 21, 2019, 09:59 AM   #27
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Thanks for the suggestion.

The older 3" Bulldog went to CA 3x. The first two were for some repairs and to adjust poa/poi. The filed the left side of the front sight twice. I intend to go back and look over the targets I saved as all this adjusting progressed. I don't remember seeing any significant changes, though the light bars were opening up nicely. Any further filling thought, would have started to give too much light and would actually start hurting accuracy. For some reason CA will only file front sights. The will not open the rear and I don't know why. I had to send them a waiver before they would change the barrel. I guess occassionaly things go wrong and they wanted it on my dime since it was not of current production and was from an earlier company. All in all, I'm satisfied with what they have done. I came away with virtually a rebuild, a nice high luster blueing and so far, it hasn't shot itself loose after one box of shells as it had been doing before. I've also been given a set of rubber grips and a set of Classic grips from their used pile.

Now if only it's double action were as smooth as my old pinned K frame model 14.
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Old June 21, 2019, 10:33 AM   #28
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what distance were you shooting at?
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Old June 21, 2019, 02:34 PM   #29
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The old barrel was 3 1/2'' left at 20 yards; 2 1/4" left at 15 yards; and 3/4" left at 5 yards.

The new barrel is 1 1/2" left at 20 yards; 1" left at 15 yards; and 0 at 8 yards.

I was thinking of slowly working the left side of the front sight to 0 first at 15 and then maybe 20 yards so long as it holds its 0 at 8 yards.
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Old June 21, 2019, 03:15 PM   #30
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The old barrel was 3 1/2'' left at 20 yards; 2 1/4" left at 15 yards; and 3/4" left at 5 yards.

The new barrel is 1 1/2" left at 20 yards; 1" left at 15 yards; and 0 at 8 yards.

I was thinking of slowly working the left side of the front sight to 0 first at 15 and then maybe 20 yards so long as it holds its 0 at 8 yards.
no disrespect meant, but 3.5"left at 20 yards could be you. please let another experienced shooter bench rest shoot your gun before you start removing metal.
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Old June 21, 2019, 05:43 PM   #31
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I was in Federal law enforcement service in 1975 when I bought my 44 Bulldog and never heard about the Sky Marshall thing. I think maybe it was some gun writers saying it would be great for Sky Marshalls with specialized ammunition. I think if it were designed as a Sky Marshall gun it would have come with a bobbed or shielded hammer.
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Old June 21, 2019, 06:14 PM   #32
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I was in Federal law enforcement service in 1975 when I bought my 44 Bulldog and never heard about the Sky Marshall thing. I think maybe it was some gun writers saying it would be great for Sky Marshalls with specialized ammunition. I think if it were designed as a Sky Marshall gun it would have come with a bobbed or shielded hammer.
I've been saying this from the start.... this is what Leroy Thompson has spoken of as well.
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Old June 21, 2019, 07:34 PM   #33
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no disrespect meant, but 3.5"left at 20 yards could be you. please let another experienced shooter bench rest shoot your gun before you start removing metal.
Exactly. It isn't always the gun.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T7xGDNNKrpc
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Old June 21, 2019, 07:54 PM   #34
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Bobbed hammer like this from Charter Arms?

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Old June 23, 2019, 12:27 PM   #35
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I agree that "made for it" is most likely someone's opinion, overheard and repeated as fact. Someone saying "it works like it was made for it" could easily be misunderstood to mean the MAKER designed it with that specific use in mind.

Had the original phrase been something like "fits the role like a glove", no one would actually think the pistol has 4 fingers and a thumb...such are the pitfalls of English...

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They apparently used a load that would effectively stop hijackers without punching through them and hitting a bystander.
This is the understated, and important reason about using low penetrating ammo on a plane. It is NOT about the risk from shooting a hole in the plane. It is about the risk of shooting people behind the bad guy. In an aircraft, people are lined up one behind another from about every possible angle. There is NO cover, to speak of and rows of people in their seats are the most likely "backstop".

People THINK that shooting holes in the plane is the big risk, (there is some risk, from the possibility of hitting a control run or other important mechanism, but this is a very small risk) usually getting the idea that a bullet hole will cause explosive decompression at high altitude.

Oddjob getting sucked out a (really small) window blown out during the fight with James Bond is MOVIE FANTASY. That idea has been repeated and amplified on in some other movies, but it is total fantasy. Even if you blow out an entire window, people will not be "sucked out". Papers and empty plastic cups, yes, a human body? no.

There was one tragic incident of a flight attendant being sucked out of a plane, but not through one of the windows. A 10x12 FOOT section of the cabin roof came off, and they were underneath it when it happened. The plane did not crash, and no one else was sucked out.

The idea of a window being blow out by a bullet and people being sucked out and/or the plane going into uncontrollable dive because of the pressure drop is Hollywood fantasy. Airliners are pressurized, they are not pressure vessels. They leak air like a sieve. They are pressurized by having air constantly pumped in faster than it leaks out, to roughly maintain ground level air pressure, and a small hole (like a bullet hole) may not even make a noticeable difference in cabin air pressure.
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Oddjob getting sucked out a (really small) window blown out during the fight with James Bond is MOVIE FANTASY. That idea has been repeated and amplified on in some other movies, but it is total fantasy. Even if you blow out an entire window, people will not be "sucked out". Papers and empty plastic cups, yes, a human body? no.
Actually, in 2018 a woman was sucked out the window in a Southwest airline according to the following article:
https://www.theguardian.com/business...plosion-latest

Other people pulled her back in, but she died from her injuries.
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I think aircraft are pressurized to have a 10,000 ft air pressure which is fine since you are not up running around needing extra oxygen. In an article by Tony Lescee he stated the Air Marshals were disbanded because they decided a shoot out was a bad thing and prevention on the ground was a better idea. Didn't work for 911 did it?
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Old June 24, 2019, 01:06 AM   #38
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Exactly. It isn't always the gun.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T7xGDNNKrpc
Charter Arms replaced the barrel that was shooting 3 1/2 " left at 20 yards. They wouldn't replace a barrel for no reason. They tried filing the front sight twice, which wasn't helping much, other than putting alot of light into the sight picture.

The new Charter Arms barrel is much closer at only 1 1/2" left at 20 yards off a bench, with a rest, using single action and light target loads, outdoors, with no wind, at a range with protection barriers on the left and right side of the range to cut down on any wind if there were any. If this were double action, I would agree it could be me as it is easy to pull shots right. But with a firm rest and shooting sa with a good sight picture and consistent groups, I don't think it was me.
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Old July 13, 2019, 07:36 PM   #39
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I really like my Charter Arms Bulldog 44spl I have owned it over a dozen years ...
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