The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Revolver Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old April 13, 2019, 02:41 PM   #1
Onward Allusion
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 17, 2009
Location: Back in a Non-Free State
Posts: 2,725
Windicator 357 Snub

Picked up a Windicator snub in 357 Mag. Nicely surprised at the range. I was able to hit 1.5-2" group bullseyes. The original grips are plain old black hard rubber. Ugly as sin. I swapped it out with a set from a Weihrauch HW3.

BTW, for those of you who are unfamiliar - Windicators are made by Weihrauch. They make the higher end air rifles from Germany.

Anyway, when I took the OEM grips off, the frame looked really strange. It's like missing the backstrap. I have never seen revolver frames w/o the backstrap. I mean it shoots fine but it's just weird. Are there other revolvers that are designed w/o a backstrap?

The 2nd pic is with the HW3 grips.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg windicator357b.jpg (115.8 KB, 223 views)
File Type: jpg windicator357a.jpg (29.1 KB, 176 views)
__________________
AI + Quantum Computing = Human Extinction Event
Onward Allusion is offline  
Old April 13, 2019, 06:16 PM   #2
krunchnik
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 27, 2010
Location: Lakeland,TN
Posts: 144
Ruger GP100 have no backstrap
__________________
THE CROW
KIMBER SUPER CARRY PRO
krunchnik is offline  
Old April 13, 2019, 06:35 PM   #3
lee n. field
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 12, 2002
Location: The same state as Mordor.
Posts: 5,148
I dug up the parts diagram. Yes, it's made that way. It looks plenty strong enough to handle the hammer spring.
__________________
"As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. "
lee n. field is offline  
Old April 17, 2019, 07:03 AM   #4
wild cat mccane
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 22, 2011
Posts: 1,303
Could you go into more details on how you purchased the grips?

Website, price, shipping, etc.

thanks!
wild cat mccane is offline  
Old April 17, 2019, 07:30 AM   #5
Onward Allusion
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 17, 2009
Location: Back in a Non-Free State
Posts: 2,725
I got the grips after doing a little research on the Windicator. They use the same grips as the Arminus HW3, HW5, and HW7. The grips are also the same as the Titan Tiger once imported by FIE.

Just jump to eBay. I'd lucked out and get one for $16. I also have one with a hairline crack that I'd picked up for $12. They are one piece grips.

I'm pleasantly surprised at the Windicator. It is a very well made no-frills 357 snub. All steel with a full shroud. Finish is on par with a Taurus. I like that it is a 6-shot. I'm still surprised at the lack of a backstrap, though

I've ran 2 boxes of factory 38's & 2 boxes of factory magnums thru mine and it didn't blow up or even gotten loose.
__________________
AI + Quantum Computing = Human Extinction Event
Onward Allusion is offline  
Old April 17, 2019, 01:03 PM   #6
lee n. field
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 12, 2002
Location: The same state as Mordor.
Posts: 5,148
Quote:
Originally Posted by Onward Allusion View Post
I got the grips after doing a little research on the Windicator. They use the same grips as the Arminus HW3, HW5, and HW7. The grips are also the same as the Titan Tiger once imported by FIE.

Just jump to eBay. I'd lucked out and get one for $16. I also have one with a hairline crack that I'd picked up for $12. They are one piece grips.

I'm pleasantly surprised at the Windicator. It is a very well made no-frills 357 snub. All steel with a full shroud. Finish is on par with a Taurus. I like that it is a 6-shot. I'm still surprised at the lack of a backstrap, though
Interesting. i'd read somewhere that it was a Zamak frame. maybe that was wrong, or things have changed.
__________________
"As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. "
lee n. field is offline  
Old April 17, 2019, 01:22 PM   #7
lamarw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 12, 2010
Location: Lake Martin, AL
Posts: 3,266
I have and Arminus .38 Special revolver. It is made by the same German firm Weihrauch. I bought it real cheap only to find out I overpaid based on going prices. I thought I was getting a bargain at a $135.00.

It has a single screw holding a one piece plastic grip attached to a frame nub is the only way I can describe it. Like the OP stated it looks weird, and I think it looks cheap. The frame and cylinder appear sturdy enough, but I would not categorize it as a quality revolver.
lamarw is offline  
Old April 17, 2019, 01:50 PM   #8
Onward Allusion
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 17, 2009
Location: Back in a Non-Free State
Posts: 2,725
The Windicator revolvers chambered in 38 Spl have the Zamak frame. Here's another weird one...The barrel is nicely stamped with ".38 Special" BUT there is a "357 Magnum" lasered in just below the "38 Special".

For $300 range toy, I can't really complain. I just got it for grins and giggles.
__________________
AI + Quantum Computing = Human Extinction Event
Onward Allusion is offline  
Old April 17, 2019, 09:46 PM   #9
Cheapshooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 2, 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 7,829
Onward Allusion got another Windicator peculiarity. Notice how the muzzle on your snubbie is not blued, and no crown?
EAA imports them with a 4" barrel, and 2" shroud. Then cuts the barrel off to match the snubbie shroud. Because of the GCA of 1968 they can't be imported with a two inch barrel.
I bought one a gew yewrs back. Great range toy for the money. I also wouldn't be opposed to a Windicator for home defense, or something to keep (well secured) in my truck.
__________________
Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!
Cheapshooter is offline  
Old May 5, 2019, 01:20 AM   #10
swissfist
Member
 
Join Date: November 6, 2014
Posts: 22
Aren't the windicators and those like them, made from pot metal?
swissfist is offline  
Old May 5, 2019, 06:45 AM   #11
jar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 8, 2001
Location: Deep South Texas
Posts: 1,102
My Dan Wesson 15-2 has no front or back strap, just a center post.
__________________
To be vintage it's gotta be older than me!
jar is offline  
Old May 5, 2019, 06:55 AM   #12
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Western PA rainforests
Posts: 1,191
The 357 magnum has a steel frame. The 38spcl only version has a cast frame. They use the same barrel shroud which is why the 357 mag stamping looks like an afterthought next to the 38 spcl stamping on the shroud.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old May 5, 2019, 07:35 AM   #13
Cheapshooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 2, 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 7,829
Quote:
Aren't the windicators and those like them, made from pot metal?
NO!
__________________
Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!
Cheapshooter is offline  
Old May 5, 2019, 08:43 AM   #14
dahermit
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 28, 2006
Location: South Central Michigan...near
Posts: 5,563
Quote:
The 38spcl only version has a cast frame.
"Cast" is not a metal or metal alloy. Therefore, it begs the question: What kind of metal is the gun cast from? Cast Iron, Cast Steel, Zinc alloy ("Pot Metal")?
__________________
When you seek advice it is spelled with a "c". In case anyone really wanted to know, and even if you didn't.
Lookup "run" in the dictionary...you will find that it is not a synonym for "function", "shoot", or "use". If you live in the U.S.A, learn to speak English.
dahermit is offline  
Old May 5, 2019, 08:49 AM   #15
Cheapshooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 2, 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 7,829
ZAMAK, a modern, higher strength alloy of zinc, aluminum magnesiun and copper. With much better metallurgy than the old alloy garnering the pot metal name.
__________________
Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!
Cheapshooter is offline  
Old May 5, 2019, 11:15 AM   #16
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Western PA rainforests
Posts: 1,191
I didn't specify which metal because I wasn't sure. I knew the non-357 magnum Windicator does not have a steel frame, while the 357 magnum version does.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old May 21, 2019, 02:50 PM   #17
Prof Young
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 21, 2007
Posts: 1,640
I had one too! Fun Gun!

I just left my EAA Windicator 38 spl/357 on consignment at the local range. When I first got it, the thing shot fine and I could hit what I aimed at even at ten yards. Then it developed a glitch. It would hang up and not cock even when empty. Then it started to free wheel. You'd pull the trigger and the thing wouldn't stop spinning. Very strange. Sent it in to EAA and not too long after got it back. That was about a year ago and have had it to the range atleast once a month since then and it has worked just fine. I have even carried on occasion. It's on consignment now cause I'd like to get a Ruger GP100 in the same caliber and I've had my fun with the Windicator.

Life is good.
Prof Young
Prof Young is offline  
Old May 21, 2019, 07:43 PM   #18
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Western PA rainforests
Posts: 1,191
Prof Young, did EAA give you an explanation of what was wrong or what they fixed? How would you rate EAA's customer service?
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old May 21, 2019, 07:51 PM   #19
Prof Young
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 21, 2007
Posts: 1,640
Good Customer Service . . .

GarandTd:
I don't recall if they delineated the exact causes of the problems. I do recall a relatively quick turn around time, say about two weeks at the most, but I think it was more like ten days. And the gun has run flawlessly since I got it back. On a scale of 1-10 with ten being the best I'd give their customer service at least an 8.

Life is good.
Prof Young
Prof Young is offline  
Old May 21, 2019, 08:35 PM   #20
unclenunzie
Member
 
Join Date: July 5, 2016
Location: Texas.
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prof Young View Post
I just left my EAA Windicator 38 spl/357 on consignment at the local range. When I first got it, the thing shot fine and I could hit what I aimed at even at ten yards. Then it developed a glitch. It would hang up and not cock even when empty. Then it started to free wheel. You'd pull the trigger and the thing wouldn't stop spinning. Very strange. Sent it in to EAA and not too long after got it back. That was about a year ago and have had it to the range atleast once a month since then and it has worked just fine. I have even carried on occasion. It's on consignment now cause I'd like to get a Ruger GP100 in the same caliber and I've had my fun with the Windicator.

Life is good.
Prof Young
I actually had a similar experience and made the same decision in a few days... The short barrel 357 windicator was bought, shot a few boxes, and traded back in on a GP-100. Only time I ever traded or sold away a gun.

I was disappointed with mine even though for the price I knew I was getting something "OK" but not quite where I wanted it to be. I certainly paid more for the GP-100, but I came away happier even though I dropped $100+ on the trade.

I think if you get a good one, and by posted accounts service is good, it fits a niche. I was looking for a 6-round 357 snub that could be carried and was not terribly expensive.
__________________
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
this space for rent
unclenunzie is offline  
Old May 21, 2019, 08:46 PM   #21
GarandTd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2016
Location: Western PA rainforests
Posts: 1,191
I don't have a Windicator. I do have a pistol imported by EAA. I've never had a problem with it. When I bought it, I remember reading many comments that called into question the customer service of EAA. Looking back, I wonder if some or any of those that made negative comments actually had any experience with EAA.
__________________
22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp
GarandTd is offline  
Old May 22, 2019, 12:23 AM   #22
Doc Holliday 1950
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 16, 2014
Location: Bout as south as it gets
Posts: 1,186
Absolutely like my Windicator 357 in magnum snub. It's solid and handles 357 in mag ammo quite well. Sometimes cheap doesn't mean garbage. This is definitely not a toy or plinking revolver.
__________________
Shoot well and be Accurate,

Doc
Doc Holliday 1950 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2018 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.08439 seconds with 11 queries