What A Flintlock Looks Like

kwhi43 · September 23, 2009, 05:00 PM

This is a piece of Missouri Flint thats making all the fire. There is nothing in
the pan. No wonder my gun goes off like lightning. It shoots so fast, I swear
I'm shooting percussion.

troy_mclure · September 23, 2009, 05:15 PM

lets see the whole gun!

kwhi43 · September 23, 2009, 05:36 PM

OK, Here's the whole gun. It is a .32 cal.

kwhi43 · September 23, 2009, 05:42 PM

troy_mclure · September 23, 2009, 10:50 PM

what the heck is it? a muzzleloading target pistol?

looks cool as hell!

koolminx · September 23, 2009, 11:23 PM

Nice! I've shot some 58 Cal flint locks in the past and the delay was nowhere near as horrible as the stories of click, aim & wait for it, that I heard as a kid.

Today's powders really know how to burn, and that's the trick!

Is that little .32 an Ingrham?

darkgael · September 24, 2009, 05:26 AM

Thanks for the pics. Tell me more about that gun. I want one.
Pete

PS -

Quote:

the delay was nowhere near as horrible as the stories of click, aim & wait for it, that I heard as a kid.

Yes, properly loaded, flintlock ignition is virtually indistinguishable from percussion fire. The properly loaded part is related to how much priming powder is used in the flash pan. It doesn't take much.
"Picking" the powder charge is also a much ignored step.
P

B.L.E. · September 24, 2009, 06:51 AM

Quote:

what the heck is it? a muzzleloading target pistol?

looks cool as hell!

Bingo! For those who aren't familiar with target muzzleloaders, that removable thing on the muzzle is a false muzzle. It's coned to help easily start a bigger than bore patched ball and then is removed for shooting. The big post on the false muzzle is there to block the sight picture so that the shooter won't accidently shoot while forgetting to remove the false muzzle first.
Some places have rules that make you connect the false muzzle to the loading bench with a lanyard so you won't forget to remove it.

darkgael · September 24, 2009, 11:47 AM

I went looking for that gun. It appears to be a custom gun made by Rob Lewis of Ohio.
I also came upon a custom percussion gun by Yazel.
Nice pieces. Very nice.
Pete

noelf2 · September 27, 2009, 07:51 PM

I chip away at Missouri flint for my flintlock also. I grew up in MO and my sister still lives there (Ozarks). I bring back big flint rocks every time I go there.

James K · September 27, 2009, 08:15 PM

FWIW, a common test in England of a flintlock shotgun was to turn the gun upside down. A good quality gun would fire before the powder had a chance to fall out of the pan.

Jim

Magnum Wheel Man · September 29, 2009, 10:32 AM

This is a pretty cool gun... I'm kinda torn between the less than traditional looks though, & the modern flint lock...

several months ago, ( when primers got tough to get ), I bought an old CVA flint lock squirrel rifle just to play with... I thought a modern flint lock might be interesting ( I personally like stainless

)... turns out my rifle had one of "those fire starter type shoes" attached to the frizzen, & used a piece of hard steel instead of the flint... as I researched, I think the "shoes" were similar to Ferrocerium ( modern fire starter stick material )... my local builder buddy was very interested in my rifle, so I bought him a couple of 1/4" diameter ferrocerium rods to play with... his thoughts were adding them to the cock in place of the flint, rather than glueing a "shoe" to the frizzen...

anyone have any links for more information on these target flint lock guns ??? I could see building one with the improved ignition system... & maybe in a bigger bore than my little 32 after we get a couple of the bugs worked out...

kwhi43 · September 29, 2009, 02:35 PM

I mainly shoot in competition and our rules say that in Flintlock matches
that you must use Flint strikeing a steel frizzen. So that lets everything else
out.

September 23, 2009, 05:00 PM	#1
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	What A Flintlock Looks Like This is a piece of Missouri Flint thats making all the fire. There is nothing in the pan. No wonder my gun goes off like lightning. It shoots so fast, I swear I'm shooting percussion.

September 23, 2009, 05:15 PM	#2
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	lets see the whole gun! __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

September 23, 2009, 05:42 PM	#4
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	Better Picture

September 23, 2009, 10:50 PM	#5
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	what the heck is it? a muzzleloading target pistol? looks cool as hell! __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

September 24, 2009, 11:47 AM	#9
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	searched I went looking for that gun. It appears to be a custom gun made by Rob Lewis of Ohio. I also came upon a custom percussion gun by Yazel. Nice pieces. Very nice. Pete __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member

September 23, 2009, 05:36 PM	#3
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	OK, Here's the whole gun. It is a .32 cal.

September 23, 2009, 11:23 PM	#6
koolminx Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2009 Posts: 520	Nice! I've shot some 58 Cal flint locks in the past and the delay was nowhere near as horrible as the stories of click, aim & wait for it, that I heard as a kid. Today's powders really know how to burn, and that's the trick! Is that little .32 an Ingrham?

September 27, 2009, 07:51 PM	#10
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	I chip away at Missouri flint for my flintlock also. I grew up in MO and my sister still lives there (Ozarks). I bring back big flint rocks every time I go there. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

September 27, 2009, 08:15 PM	#11
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	FWIW, a common test in England of a flintlock shotgun was to turn the gun upside down. A good quality gun would fire before the powder had a chance to fall out of the pan. Jim

September 29, 2009, 10:32 AM	#12
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	This is a pretty cool gun... I'm kinda torn between the less than traditional looks though, & the modern flint lock... several months ago, ( when primers got tough to get ), I bought an old CVA flint lock squirrel rifle just to play with... I thought a modern flint lock might be interesting ( I personally like stainless )... turns out my rifle had one of "those fire starter type shoes" attached to the frizzen, & used a piece of hard steel instead of the flint... as I researched, I think the "shoes" were similar to Ferrocerium ( modern fire starter stick material )... my local builder buddy was very interested in my rifle, so I bought him a couple of 1/4" diameter ferrocerium rods to play with... his thoughts were adding them to the cock in place of the flint, rather than glueing a "shoe" to the frizzen... anyone have any links for more information on these target flint lock guns ??? I could see building one with the improved ignition system... & maybe in a bigger bore than my little 32 after we get a couple of the bugs worked out... __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

September 29, 2009, 02:35 PM	#13
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	I mainly shoot in competition and our rules say that in Flintlock matches that you must use Flint strikeing a steel frizzen. So that lets everything else out.