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January 6, 2019, 08:47 PM | #26 | |
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Granted, A 45-70 will break bone and exit. A 338 Lapua spitting a Barnes will explode bones and push the bone fragments through the wound channel causing a mess of epic proportions. P.S. I still use the 87 Bonded Norma in the 257 Roy. It's so tough, it may as well be a Barnes. It consistently blows through AR500 at 200 yards. Last edited by reynolds357; January 6, 2019 at 09:46 PM. |
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January 7, 2019, 01:30 PM | #27 |
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Yup, the expanding solids thrive on velocity.
I have seen very good effects from them down to about 2400 FPS impact velocity, and "good enough" down to about 2000 FPS. Below 2000 impact speed they don't open up much and sometimes not at all. I have seen a few good kills with low speed hits when the points will bend some, and turn the bullet sideways. That creates a good effect, but somethings they wound channel will veer off sharply when they do that, so it can work for you or against you. Kind of a case of "luck of the draw" When I hunt with rifles that are not super fast, or I anticipate possible shots at ranges where my bullets can be going less then 2100 FPS at impact I usually go with lead core bullets and the best of the bunch I have used (so far) are the Nosler Partitions and various bonded core bullets They do hot hold together as well as GMX or TSX bullets at real high speeds, but they hold well enough to give me exits most times. The hits at 2000 and lower are where they do better. But I could not agree more about the Solid Expanding bullets used in super high velocity mags. That's a match made in hunters heaven. In modern rifles we have not come up with a round yet that can drive them too fast. |
January 7, 2019, 08:30 PM | #28 |
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I've shot a lot of deer. I like the shot and don't care about trophies. I'm the tag filler and
damage permit shooter. When shooting damage permits I use a 270 with 110gr bullets. I shoot from a rest and shots are 200yds or less. I take only head shots and have yet have one run. The farthest I ever shot a deer while actually deer hunting was 250yds with a 308 130gr Speer HP, head on it never new what hit it. The bulk of my deer are shot at less than 100yds in heavy cover and they are on the run. Over half these were shot with slugs in Ohio and when they are pumping adrenalin they can run a long ways with a fatal hit. The ones you catch that aren't spooked seem like they give up the ghost easily. A big gun doesn't make up for a bad shot. The thing is the deer will die from that bad shot. I have seen deer still alive from being gut shot the day before. They can't get back on their feet but will try. Small game hunting on public hunting areas after deer season I have come across a lot of deer that died after running off from where they were hit. Guys didn't know they hit or were to lazy to track it. |
January 9, 2019, 09:32 AM | #29 | |
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