New Guns

John E.B. Rawton · November 10, 2018, 10:31 AM

I had been working on my Uberti Walkers, swapping the kirst konvertors for the original c&b, fixing the short arbor (which I never new about) and installing some SlixShot nipples.
I was considering a new gun and was looking at an 1860 deluxe from Long Hunter. In the end I opted to buy a couple Uberti that were on sale. An 1860 and 1851.
I can order more SlixShot nipples. Taking a revolver down is not an issue. Inspecting and cleaning up parts is no problem and most likely the guns will work just fine for my style.
I have not tried to run percussions so I do not know if I need a cap rake yet.

I have read a bit about cylinder bore size vs barrel bore size and the fact that the cylinder is smaller. I wonder how necessary it is to bore the cylinder?

arcticap · November 10, 2018, 03:17 PM

I guess that it's all up to what you want to do.
Reaming the chambers is only one part of accurizing a revolver.
Another part is the forcing cone.
I think that it's easier said than getting it done right.

Originally posted by mec.

John E.B. Rawton · November 10, 2018, 05:03 PM

Thanks articap,
For the most part I’ll just be throwing lead short range at Cowboy shoots and if I can ring the steel 5 outta 5 I’ll be happy for now. Fine tuning for accuracy might come later on the gun of my choice. I will have to spend some time with them I guess.

Hawg · November 10, 2018, 07:13 PM

Most of them shoot pretty good right out of the box, a little high tho.

John E.B. Rawton · November 15, 2018, 03:30 PM

As the story goes ... So I opened up the boxes and initially both revolvers looked good and the action function as expected.
The 1860 was really tight when it came to removing the barrel. In fact I could not even get it back on by hand. I had jumped to the conclusion that there were a few high spots and burrs around the wedge slots and filed some areas flush.
The true problem, after real close inspection, was that the frame was dropped and had landed at high noon on the wedge end of the cylinder pin and bent that weakened end downward.
Now that I struggled with and twisted the barrel about, the cylinder pin loosened and rocks left n right.
I should not have been so eager with the files n such because there is no way to send it back.
Of the $68 I saved on the sale I’ll spend $28 on a new cylinder pin and locking pin. Still, I’ve saved $40 and got some diy smithing lessons.
Win-Win.

Seller withheld because it really doesn’t matter. Quality control started and ended with the individual at Uberti who decided a bent pin and a barrel that did not fit properly was good enough to put in a box and send out the door.

44caliberkid · November 20, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by John E.B. Rawton

Thanks articap,
For the most part I’ll just be throwing lead short range at Cowboy shoots and if I can ring the steel 5 outta 5 I’ll be happy for now. Fine tuning for accuracy might come later on the gun of my choice. I will have to spend some time with them I guess.

I shoot C&B class in Cowboy Action Shooting and use stock Uberti's and Piettas, except for Tresso or Slix Shot nipples. They are plenty accurate for your stated purpose. Plates are easy to hit. Reaming chambers and fitting arbor are only nessesary if you are participating in Muzzel loader target matches. A lot of people think C&Bs aren't accurate but you wouldn't want me shooting at you with mine.

ThomasT · November 21, 2018, 08:07 PM

How are you reaming the chambers and what size are you reaming them too?

woodnbow · November 21, 2018, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ratshooter

How are you reaming the chambers and what size are you reaming them too?

I’m interested in this as well... does not seem as if standard chamber Reamer would work since we’re coming at it from the front of the cylinder...

rodwhaincamo · November 22, 2018, 12:13 AM

The Brownell’s .45 hand reamer (cylinder throat) has been recommended. Been thinking about bringing mine up to .452” from .449”.

woodnbow · November 24, 2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rodwhaincamo

The Brownell’s .45 hand reamer (cylinder throat) has been recommended. Been thinking about bringing mine up to .452” from .449”.

I’ve been in touch with the folks at 4d reamer rentals and they indicated that the cylinder throat reamer won’t work for this application... I’d hate to trash a cylinder trying to find out if he’s wrong. it’d be nice if someone who’s actually done this would chime in...��

rodwhaincamo · November 24, 2018, 10:59 PM

It’s been quite some time since this was suggested to me. I can’t say whether or not they actually did it themselves or not, but it seems they did.

November 10, 2018, 10:31 AM	#1
John E.B. Rawton Member Join Date: September 22, 2018 Posts: 68	New Guns I had been working on my Uberti Walkers, swapping the kirst konvertors for the original c&b, fixing the short arbor (which I never new about) and installing some SlixShot nipples. I was considering a new gun and was looking at an 1860 deluxe from Long Hunter. In the end I opted to buy a couple Uberti that were on sale. An 1860 and 1851. I can order more SlixShot nipples. Taking a revolver down is not an issue. Inspecting and cleaning up parts is no problem and most likely the guns will work just fine for my style. I have not tried to run percussions so I do not know if I need a cap rake yet. I have read a bit about cylinder bore size vs barrel bore size and the fact that the cylinder is smaller. I wonder how necessary it is to bore the cylinder?

November 10, 2018, 03:17 PM	#2
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	I guess that it's all up to what you want to do. Reaming the chambers is only one part of accurizing a revolver. Another part is the forcing cone. I think that it's easier said than getting it done right. Originally posted by mec. Last edited by arcticap; November 10, 2018 at 03:25 PM.

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November 10, 2018, 05:03 PM	#3
John E.B. Rawton Member Join Date: September 22, 2018 Posts: 68	Thanks articap, For the most part I’ll just be throwing lead short range at Cowboy shoots and if I can ring the steel 5 outta 5 I’ll be happy for now. Fine tuning for accuracy might come later on the gun of my choice. I will have to spend some time with them I guess.

November 10, 2018, 07:13 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Most of them shoot pretty good right out of the box, a little high tho.

November 15, 2018, 03:30 PM	#5
John E.B. Rawton Member Join Date: September 22, 2018 Posts: 68	As the story goes ... So I opened up the boxes and initially both revolvers looked good and the action function as expected. The 1860 was really tight when it came to removing the barrel. In fact I could not even get it back on by hand. I had jumped to the conclusion that there were a few high spots and burrs around the wedge slots and filed some areas flush. The true problem, after real close inspection, was that the frame was dropped and had landed at high noon on the wedge end of the cylinder pin and bent that weakened end downward. Now that I struggled with and twisted the barrel about, the cylinder pin loosened and rocks left n right. I should not have been so eager with the files n such because there is no way to send it back. Of the $68 I saved on the sale I’ll spend $28 on a new cylinder pin and locking pin. Still, I’ve saved $40 and got some diy smithing lessons. Win-Win. Seller withheld because it really doesn’t matter. Quality control started and ended with the individual at Uberti who decided a bent pin and a barrel that did not fit properly was good enough to put in a box and send out the door.

November 21, 2018, 08:07 PM	#7
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,753	How are you reaming the chambers and what size are you reaming them too?

November 22, 2018, 12:13 AM	#9
rodwhaincamo Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,246	The Brownell’s .45 hand reamer (cylinder throat) has been recommended. Been thinking about bringing mine up to .452” from .449”.

November 24, 2018, 10:59 PM	#11
rodwhaincamo Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,246	It’s been quite some time since this was suggested to me. I can’t say whether or not they actually did it themselves or not, but it seems they did.