Looking to upgrade my AR optics! - Page 2

MarkCO · December 5, 2022, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow9mm

took a better look at the TR-6 in comparison to the PA I am looking at.

The RT6, if that is what you meant, is really a BDC. Mils or MOA, but the side bars are mils.

GeauxTide · December 5, 2022, 05:59 PM

I've been happy with Leupold 1x4 and Vortex 1x6 Crossfire on my ARs in 300 HAM'R, and 450 Bushmaster.

taylorce1 · December 7, 2022, 11:31 AM

I need to get out and shoot my AR with the RT-6 on it. Ive been busy working on my shooting range getting it back in shape. I should have a range report in a few days..

Shadow9mm · December 7, 2022, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by taylorce1

I need to get out and shoot my AR with the RT-6 on it. Ive been busy working on my shooting range getting it back in shape. I should have a range report in a few days..

looking forward to it. how is the eye relief? do you have a good window? Or do you have to be in just the right place?

AlaBusa · December 7, 2022, 12:10 PM

Check out the Athlon Helos BTR Gen 2 2-12x42

I have it on my AR and love it and the reticle is quite nice and usable.

Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

taylorce1 · December 9, 2022, 08:52 AM

@ Shawdo9mm, eyer relief is aroun 4" with a forgiving eye box. I was able to mount it forward enough to clear the charging handle, and still be comfortable to get behind.

@ AlBusa, I have looked at that optic it's just larger and heavier than I need on an 16" M-4 clone.

HiBC · December 10, 2022, 08:45 PM

There are not too many days left in December... We are supposed to get the BATF "regs of the day" till they change them.

Till then,speculating just raises blood pressure.

I have watched some vids that go over the alleged BATF questionnaire points system (which may change)

There is a section on sights and optics. Its pretty restrictive.

But you said you were going to SBR. That makes those troubles moot

taylorce1 · December 10, 2022, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HiBC

But you said you were going to SBR. That makes those troubles moot

I never said I'm going SBR, I said if the rules change I probably would. It really depends on what I have to do to keep my pistol legal. IF the rules don't change then I'll leave it alone and stick with the brace, maybe get a different one.

HiBC · December 10, 2022, 10:26 PM

Go to youtube and dig up the vids on AR pistols. Watch some that run the pistols through the proposed point system forms. There is a sights/optics section.
Do a search for 'BATF form 4999" There is a listing for a ATF PDF file

I'm not remembering everything very well, but I got the idea the RT-3 and RT 6 might not be OK. They got sticky about eye relief.

I only mention it because you are spending money.

But it doesn't mean much till its official

Pistoler0 · December 11, 2022, 10:21 AM

I may be late to give some advice, but I wanted to say that I am very happy with the Atibal hybrid 12. It is a 1-12x32 LPVO available in both FFP and SFP, mil dot and also moa illuminated christmas tree reticles. The reticle is very similar to the Athlon reticle that AlaBusa posted above.

SFP:
https://atibal-optics.com/products/a...12-1-12x32-sfp

FFP is coming to market in January, I pre-ordered one:
https://atibal-optics.com/products/a...15013c33&_ss=r

taylorce1 · December 11, 2022, 01:11 PM

I've ran it through the GOA Pistol Point calculator, and even with the magnifier on I qualify as a pistol. Until the next ATF ruling.

December 5, 2022, 05:59 PM	#27
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,345	I've been happy with Leupold 1x4 and Vortex 1x6 Crossfire on my ARs in 300 HAM'R, and 450 Bushmaster. __________________ Reloading For: 223R, 243W, 6.5 GR, 6.5 CM, 260R, 6.5-06, 280R, 7mmRM, 300HAM'R, 308W, 30-06, 338-06, 9mm, 357M, 41M, 44SPL, 44M, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 450BM.

December 7, 2022, 11:31 AM	#28
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 7,908	I need to get out and shoot my AR with the RT-6 on it. Ive been busy working on my shooting range getting it back in shape. I should have a range report in a few days.. __________________ NRA Life Member

December 9, 2022, 08:52 AM	#31
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 7,908	@ Shawdo9mm, eyer relief is aroun 4" with a forgiving eye box. I was able to mount it forward enough to clear the charging handle, and still be comfortable to get behind. @ AlBusa, I have looked at that optic it's just larger and heavier than I need on an 16" M-4 clone. __________________ NRA Life Member

December 10, 2022, 10:26 PM	#34
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,037	Go to youtube and dig up the vids on AR pistols. Watch some that run the pistols through the proposed point system forms. There is a sights/optics section. Do a search for 'BATF form 4999" There is a listing for a ATF PDF file I'm not remembering everything very well, but I got the idea the RT-3 and RT 6 might not be OK. They got sticky about eye relief. I only mention it because you are spending money. But it doesn't mean much till its official Last edited by HiBC; December 11, 2022 at 01:26 AM. Reason: New Info Update

December 11, 2022, 10:21 AM	#35
Pistoler0 Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2019 Location: Conifer, CO Posts: 609	I may be late to give some advice, but I wanted to say that I am very happy with the Atibal hybrid 12. It is a 1-12x32 LPVO available in both FFP and SFP, mil dot and also moa illuminated christmas tree reticles. The reticle is very similar to the Athlon reticle that AlaBusa posted above. SFP: https://atibal-optics.com/products/a...12-1-12x32-sfp FFP is coming to market in January, I pre-ordered one: https://atibal-optics.com/products/a...15013c33&_ss=r __________________ Life is simply an inter-temporal problem of constrained optimization.

December 7, 2022, 12:10 PM	#30
AlaBusa Member Join Date: November 22, 2017 Posts: 30	Check out the Athlon Helos BTR Gen 2 2-12x42 I have it on my AR and love it and the reticle is quite nice and usable. Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

December 10, 2022, 08:45 PM	#32
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,037	There are not too many days left in December... We are supposed to get the BATF "regs of the day" till they change them. Till then,speculating just raises blood pressure. I have watched some vids that go over the alleged BATF questionnaire points system (which may change) There is a section on sights and optics. Its pretty restrictive. But you said you were going to SBR. That makes those troubles moot

December 11, 2022, 01:11 PM	#36
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 7,908	I've ran it through the GOA Pistol Point calculator, and even with the magnifier on I qualify as a pistol. Until the next ATF ruling. __________________ NRA Life Member

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