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Your ideas for gun controls that "won't take them away" by their very nature will facilitate just that. Licenses can be easily denied and/or be made unaffordable. The time needed to do "community checks" could be stretched out indefinitely, or again, made unaffordable to most people. What is a high capacity magazine? NY seemed to think over 7 rounds was too many. Why some arbitrary number? Democrats smell blood in the water, they aren't going to have any interest in a sunset provision like the first AWB had. You have a valid point on the NRA needing to be better on social media. I'm not sure it was just the Parkland kids being on the issue, they had lots of help from the usual suspects. I think they were just waiting for the next tragedy with a plan to use kids in such a manner. |
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March 1, 2018, 05:09 PM | #52 |
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Of course, if enough gutless, wishy-washy Republicans vote to pass it, that could be a YUUUGE miscalculation.
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March 1, 2018, 05:13 PM | #53 |
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Of course, if enough gutless, wishy-washy Republicans vote to pass it, that could be a YUUUGE miscalculation.
Only for those that voted for Trump...... "but, but, but we got a conservative on the Supreme Court!" And what happens with the Supreme Court refuses to hear the case? That has happened already. And what happens if Trump gets another SC appointment and this time, doesn't appoint a conservative or the one he does appoint turns out be like Roberts on ACA? I see now how the prediction "Trump will destroy the Republican Party" might have been correct. Last edited by In The Ten Ring; March 1, 2018 at 06:13 PM. |
March 1, 2018, 06:05 PM | #54 |
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It’s almost as if he can’t be trusted, go figure.
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March 1, 2018, 06:44 PM | #55 |
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Never trust a politician, lawyer or billionaire... someone told me that growing up.
Stripping rights, before due process, should be concerning to all no matter your political affiliations. I have always been convinced that nearly all of our leaders want us disarmed; some just use second amendment to gather votes. |
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If anything, we need to learn a big lesson as a nation: stop voting based on slogans and emotional appeals.
The President's history on 2nd Amendment issues is no secret. As far back as 1996, he was on record supporting bans on "assault weapons" and waiting periods. It was foolish for the NRA to blow $53 million on his campaign just because he wasn't the other guy. |
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I was also raised to distrust folks with money or position. As an adult I have come to know that judging people by what they do or have is a very poor way of determining their character.
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What are the Parkland kids supposed to do? Going back to school quietly has not worked. Kids are dying because violent nutcases are shooting up schools. Adults have a very sorry record when it comes to addressing school massacres. Go kids!!!
Meanwhile every proposal to improve the reporting of mental cases to NICS is met with disapproval from gun owners: "Slippery slope" and all that. Yep, folks get on the boards and blame "liberals" video games, moral decay, and other stuff for school massacres. IMO: The biggest factor in this stuff was no fault divorce. Ronald Reagan signed the first no fault divorce statute into law in 1969 in CA. He regretted that action for the rest of his life. No fault divorce is law in 50 states. Millions of boys are being raised by females with little or no interaction with their fathers. i'm a Big Brother. My record mentoring boys is not great. However, one fatherless boy i mentored is a US Army special operations officer. A boy growing up in a fatherless home is often floundering. |
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I’ve asked how one defines “mental healthcare” to a point that allows restriction of rights outside the legal system
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March 1, 2018, 09:39 PM | #60 |
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"go kids?" Go where? Demand pointless new laws? Scream at and shout down gun owners and their advocates?
Govt failed those students every step of the way but somehow, more govt won't. Right. |
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Some want knee jerk reactions because of a long pent up failure to deal with the impact of guns (that includes suicide, gangs killing each other, killing innocent people in the area etc) As much as I detested Miranda at the time, it also has stopped gross abuses of police officers of no integrity that beat out confessions. I see issues with both side and want to explore ideas and solutions. When I hear one then I can support it. It may make no difference, but its what I can do.
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Also don't forget that Ernesto Miranda was later convicted again during retail. Not that this would give any cops authority to "beat out a confession." But... The thing is, they didn't. |
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I noticed how Dana Loesch tip-toed around the issue of Trump yesterday morning and how Fox News has largely avoided criticism. Now if Obama had said this, well, you know the reaction would have been much different!
I guess they've shook him up enough to keep him on message for the time being but I would still put our position as "shaky." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...r-meeting.html |
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Is it possible that despite the unsound character of seeking a warrant after taking an action, people don't think his proposal reflected consideration or even intent, and that this will never come to fruition, so it isn't a story of great magnitude?
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This has wandered far from the charge of this forum.
Thus, closed.
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