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March 13, 2018, 03:59 PM | #1 |
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Zero for long range shooting
Just curious to see where people who do long range shooting (1000+ yards) zero their rifles at. 200, 300, 400 yards? Further?
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March 13, 2018, 05:13 PM | #2 |
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My base zero is at 200, and I reset the target turrets so the "0" on the elevation knob is on at that range. Then adjust it based on my dope sheet for whatever the target range is.
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March 13, 2018, 05:30 PM | #3 |
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You write down zeros for each distance.
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March 13, 2018, 07:44 PM | #4 |
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Most optics are designed for either a 100 or 200 yard zero, then adjust the dials for the actual range you are shooting. That is the best advice even for hunters or anyone else shooting at much closer ranges. If you are shooting at various ranges from 50-500 yards having a 300-400 yard zero causes more problems than it solves.
If you only plan to shoot at one set range then zero for that range.
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March 13, 2018, 07:59 PM | #5 |
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I like to shoot at 600 and 1000, but the zero is 200, which is ~ flat from muzzle to ~250 yards.
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March 14, 2018, 10:08 AM | #6 |
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The "long distance" range near me reaches out to 750 yards, but there is also plenty of open desert around me too. The rifle I'm using will be a dedicated bench gun for shooting steel between 500 and 1300 yards. I don't plan on shooting anything closer than 200 yards with it.
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March 14, 2018, 10:49 AM | #7 |
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I zero my rifles at 100. Range the targets and come up the required amount. If you have a scope it works great.
Handy also it a good range finder. I use the G7 BR-2 with its ballistic program. Once you get the info imputted PROPERLY, you just range it, the G7 gives you the adjustments, them come up on the scope dials. Simple, fast and accurate.
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March 14, 2018, 11:31 AM | #8 |
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I am like 30cal. All my Long Range shooting has been at known distances so I have a notebook with sight settings recorded.
If you are using reticle features for ranging and holdover, there may be a baseline distance you should zero at before you climb the scale. Read the directions. |
March 14, 2018, 08:08 PM | #9 |
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All of my scopes get set at 100 yards regardless if it is a 223 or 338LM. I do this because I never have to dial down.
Example a 143 6.5 creed moving at 2561fps and zeroed for 200 yds if you need to place a bullet in an exact place at 50yds you need to dial down 1.75 MOA VS zero set at 100 for the same 50yard shot you dial up .50 MOA. Overall no big unless you are running optics with zero stops. |
March 15, 2018, 10:46 AM | #10 |
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Doesn't matter where you zero your rifle, if your shooting long range your gonna have to readjust the scope somewhere to account for bullet drop!
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March 15, 2018, 11:13 AM | #11 | |
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Sounds like 200 yds is a common choice. Of course I'll play with it and set it to my liking, but I'll at least start with 200. |
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March 17, 2018, 06:55 AM | #12 |
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IMHO
Resetting to a "base zero" is a waste of time and adds wear to the scope's internals if you're only using the rifle as a range toy. Make a note of what your last range setting is and adjust as needed next time. Resetting to a "base zero" would have merit IF there's a chance someone might be shooting at you the next time you pick up your rifle. |
March 17, 2018, 08:23 AM | #13 |
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200 zero.
Really makes no difference, just fewer clicks to get where you need to be as mentioned.
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March 17, 2018, 09:19 AM | #14 |
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I tried using 200 and 300. PITA and I went back to 100 for all rifle calibers. Hunting guns, Precision guns, plinkers.
Either dialing or holding past 150 vs 240 is not that big of a deal. Most of my rifle shooting is inside 100 or past 300, so it really did nothing beneficial for me. I have had a few senior moments where I could not remember if I had a 100 or 200 zero on a gun, had to check. That was enough to just go back to 100 across the board. |
March 17, 2018, 11:38 AM | #15 |
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I zero all of mine at 100 yards. On most of my scopes,I have enough travel range to adjust out to around 1700 yards using 20 moa bases.
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March 18, 2018, 11:12 AM | #16 |
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Doesn't matter how far you zero in at, at some point the bullet will fall below line of sight them you'll have to be a better shooter!
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March 18, 2018, 06:13 PM | #17 |
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My zero is 200 meters. Only because I frequently like to test my handloads at 200 meters not 100 yds. My clubs 200 meter range is never busy so it's very convenient for me to call the line cold and do a target swap. 200 meters also makes in convenient when I want to enter into a high power competition match as they are most all done at 200 yds. I only shoot known distances 300, 500 and 600 and I simply print up a quick reference dope card and attach it to my clip board notepad for the shoot. Many of my popular loads and distances I have the dopes memorized. I also use my Strelok app but I always make a dope card as a backup in case my phone dies or it's very hard to read the screen in direct bright sun.
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March 21, 2018, 04:06 AM | #18 |
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Zero depends on the target and the use.
For precision target work, one needs a specific zero at each range involved with the ammunition to be used. For hunting and other purposes, one can determine the trajectory of the round in question and the vertical size of the target expected. From this, one can determine the "point blank range" of the rifle and ammunition combination. This method allowed the M1903 Springfield rifle with M1906 ammunition to impact a human torso at ranges up to five hundred and some yards without adjusting the sights (after initial sight setting). If that strikes one as a possibility, do some research on "Battle Sight Zero".
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March 21, 2018, 09:08 AM | #19 | |
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I zero at 100 meters.
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"Each range involved" may mean an innumerable amout of "zeros" to the shooter who engages a target at unknown distances, as opposed to simply 400, 500, 600, etc. Using a point blank range zero/battle sight zero for shooting 1000+ yards, as the OP mentioned, sounds like an inefficient way to run a gun, if not impossible. You zero at a given range, then compensate for bullet drop using the scope knobs or reticle.
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