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January 4, 2013, 07:13 PM | #301 | |
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Does anybody know if this is accurate
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January 4, 2013, 08:07 PM | #302 | |
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"We’re going to take a look at what happened there [in Newtown] and what can be done to help avoid it in the future," Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), the incoming chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, which oversees gun laws, told Roll Call last month. "But gun control is not going to be something that I would support." Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/27...#ixzz2Gy80t8G7 |
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IMO: A new AWB is very unlikely. We do need to be on alert.
There were at least 12 attempts to extend the AWB. Most got few co-sponsors and all went nowhere. Last edited by thallub; January 4, 2013 at 08:42 PM. |
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I kid, I kid. I work at ground zero with the public on this, and I get bombarded with questions, concerns, conspiracy theories and whatnot all day long at times like this. I talk to people who actually think the United Nations can enact legislation here. I am not kidding on that last one. It amazes me that I have to give grown adults the Schoolhouse Rock lecture on the legislative process. I'm glad to see the statement from Goodlatte. Unfortunately, the only member of the Committee from my state is Hank Johnson, and he won't be swayed from his views.
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Committee chairpersons have tremendous latitude in the consideration of house bills. Most bills never see the light of day. In 2003 Carolyn McCarthys H. R. 2038 did not get a committee hearing. H. R 3831; congressman Castles bill to extend the AWB, died the same death. http://www.sourcenewspapers.com/arti...b704536989.txt |
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January 4, 2013, 11:23 PM | #306 | |
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The perception is we have a lot of people legislating that are well motivated to do any deed no matter how moral or immoral to deny us our rights to arms... And to be fair there are a lot of laws that make that perception seem to have a more factual basis than most things. So, ok, you have me beat 3 ways to Sunday on this stuff but that's why I'm here to benefit from the collective experience... I would suggest others here might say the same. We all have our expertise areas and this is by far apparently one you have great strength in... No doubt in my mind you have passed the bar... We appreciate your knowledge..
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However, I tend to do research on issues that matter to me, and that includes areas that involve my civil rights. While I'm dismayed to see the apathetic charade that passes for civics education in our schools, I'd hope folks would do some reading on their own regarding the matter. With resources like Wikipedia available freely, there's no reason for a fortysomething adult not to know that the President can't simply enact legislation out of free air, or that a treaty can't bypass the Constitution. Many of the people unloading their fears on me will spend hours reading Fifty Shades of Grey, but they've never read our founding documents. They'll waste huge amounts of money on "tactical" gear of questionable utility, but they can't be troubled to ante up for a $25.00 NRA membership. A significant portion of them don't vote, and I doubt one in twenty can name any of their congressmen. And this is how we lose our liberties. If 10% of the folks howling at me actually called their representative instead of burying their heads in the sand (or trekking all over town to blow obscene amounts of money on things they think will be banned), we'd be much better off.
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And this is how we lose our liberties. If 10% of the folks howling at me actually called their representative instead of burying their heads in the sand (or trekking all over town to blow obscene amounts of money on things they think will be banned), we'd be much better off.[/QUOTE] So true. I tell friends I have written to my congressmen and senators and show them what I have written and more than half thank me and do nothing or tell me they don't know how to contact their representatives even when I provide the link. Very sad. |
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New NRA life member I not only vote . I research my votes . My Senators are Boxer and Feinstien congress woman is Davis I plagiarize the heck out of people on this forum and send it to my reps as if I thought of it my self . There are many people here that artculate thing so much better then me . and I spend more money on gun stuff then I should but not as much as I would like
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If this does, perhance, become law. Seems to me if have to register NFA and pay tax, etc..might as well go full bore and obtain a fully auto firearm?
If taxed, inspected, registered, and regulated just seems like might as well get a real assault weapon? |
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Another article for those who are interested.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/05/fe...ed-january-22/ On a side note, Senator Feinstien reminds me of the head master who wears pink in Harry Potter...
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Who's going to read through 13 pages of post looking for new specifics that does not talk about the specifics of the AWB cus there were none at the time the thread was started .
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What are your guys thoughts now that we have more specifics and what parts if any do you think will not hold up in court .
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As to "what may be," we have had, for quite some time, a very, very good idea of the contents of the bills that have been or will be introduced in the current Congress. The anti-gun politicians have been tweaking their ideas for 18 years and have not been shy about showcasing their ideas by proposing bills in each session of Congress. |
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If I had a quarter for everybody I've seen worrying about a ban but haven't yet written legislators or joined a group who will be fighting the battle, I'd have enough to go buy some in demand items at current high market prices. The folks standing in line at gun shows and gun shops need to spend the time writing emails to legislators. They do that and we're guaranteed to not see anything pass. |
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In other news, I got an email back from John Barrow's office today. He, or by proxt his aide, was thankful for my interest and reiterated Rep. Barrow's support for the Second Amendment. No mention was made of the fact that I told him in my letter that I was a registered Republican but would vote for him if he stood for me on this one.
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This off of Sen. Fienstien's webpage.
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The NFA thing simply won't work. There isn't the infrastructure, manpower, or budget to handle the registration of so many firearms in such a short time. Furthermore, since the NFA has nothing to do with semiautomatic rifles, it'll have to be rewritten, which could have unintended consequences for supporters.
Fun fact: the NFA was originally going to include a $2.00 tax and registration of handguns, but that provision was axed due to opposition from the politically nascent NRA. The idea of forfeiture without compensation would also raise some serious 5th Amendment concerns.
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