October 3, 2005, 06:45 PM | #1 |
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12 Gauge Safety Flares
Are there 12 gauge safety flare shells that fit a shotgun? I've seen 12 gauge safety flare pistols but the shells seem to be too short for a shotgun.
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October 3, 2005, 09:04 PM | #2 |
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I assume you saw the Orion 12g marine flare pistol, stupid little plastic orange thing they sell at Wal-Mart. The shells that come with it are 12gx2" shells and can be used in any normal 12g shotgun, although they usually don't cycle very well in repeating guns with tube magazines. I also wouldn't fire them out of long, choked barrels for fear of getting one stuck and having the heat from the flare screw up the tempering of the barrel. I don't know if it would actually do that, but I wouldn't try it.
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October 4, 2005, 10:56 AM | #3 |
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Actually . . .
Actually, I wanted to know if there were flare shells designed specifically for shotguns, not those Walmart cheapies.
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October 4, 2005, 12:22 PM | #4 |
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As far as I know, 12ga flares only meant to be fired from a flare gun. I would not try to fire a 12ga flare from a shot gun. You could probably chamber it, probably fire it, but I would venture to say that it could damage the barrel. Likewise, I would not attempt to fire a 12ga 00 buck from my flare gun.
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October 4, 2005, 03:50 PM | #5 |
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There's Urban Legends of flares getting stuck in the choke and turning the barrel red hot. Not a good idea, IMO....
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October 4, 2005, 04:20 PM | #6 |
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No, I don't think it would damage the barrel unless it got stuck. I have had a rather ecciting experience with those flares and can tell you from first hand experience that they don't light up until well after the've left the barrel. Secondly, I would think it would be fine to fire them out of my 20" cylinder-bore 870, but I wouldn't try it with my 26" fixed choke Baikal SxS. Kinda like those .22lr Colibri rounds with no powder, they seem to work okay in a 16" carbine, but I wouldn't fire them out of my 24" Mossberg rifle for fear of getting the bullet stuck in the barrel. Difference is, .22 Colibris don't have 6 seconds of burning road flare stuff in them. I'm affraid that getting one of those flares stuck in a long shotgun barrel and having it burn like that would screw up the temper of the steel, and I don't think that's covered by my EAA waranty (haha, get it? EAA waranty!!! That's a killer.) As far as repeating guns go, they seem to cycle okay in my 870, but they don't eject with much force and stovepipe about one in five trys.
By the way, that is the same stuff as those red road flares that look like dynamite sticks. How can I tell? Number one, ever smelt a road flare before? The 12g flares smell exactly the same. Nine months and a few hundred bottles of Fabreez still haven't gotten that burnt smell out of my bedroom. Number two, look at one of those road flares some time, the older ones say Olin on them, the newer ones say Orion. Then look at one of those orange flare pistols. The older ones say Olin, the newer ones say Orion. Mine says Orion on it, bought it in January. Anyway, it's the same company, Orion Safety Products. And those flares aren't cheap by any means, coming in packs of three for $15. Looking at their website right now, they have a new version of the 12g flare that's more powerful: 500ft peek altitude with a 7 second burn. They still fit the 12gx2" chamber on the flare pistol, but the're longer (bore-fitting tube extending from the front of the shell.) Actually they look like 3.25"-3.5", which means you could only use them in break-action guns or 3.5" chambered repeating guns. Final thought: Aguila minishells will chamber in an Olin/Orion flare pistol. Bad idea. No, this one I do not know this one from experience, but God help the moron who does.
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Seriously, I have one of those orange flare gun thingys on my boat, along with marine flares and a couple of orange military smoke grenades. Hey, it's an old boat! If you can find a web site for them (I couldn't), check with Blammo Ammo. They make every conceivable kind of shotgun round, everything from flame throwers to flash/bangs to flares, but they are expensive.
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...My carpet is on fire." Flew back over the bed, stomped the flame out, opened my window, and stuffed a blanket against the bottom of my door. The last thing I needed was for my Dad to smell the smoke. Oh, did I forget to mention this is my parents' house? My Mom was away on business and my Dad was sleeping (11:00pm this happened at.) Luckly my Dad is a very sound sleeper and the gun report didn't wake him up, but I knew he would smell the smoke if/when he got up to use the restroom. I took about an hour and a half for the smoke to clear/settle and I just lay there the whole time, suffocating in smoke, thinking about what I had done wrong and what the consequences could have been. The flare almost went all the way into the wall. I don't think I need to explain what that would have done. After my Dad went to work in the morning I proceded to cut the 2x2ft piece of burnt carpet out of my floor and replace it with a piece from the closet. Anyway, I use Fabreez in there weekly and you can still kinda smell the flare. My parents still don't know this happened. I am extreemly lucky that very little bad came of this. I will never ignore firearm safety rules again. As they say, COMPLACENCY KILLS!!! I hope you had as much fun reading this as I had experiencing it. --Caspianjesuschristishouldbedeadorinjail Sea Monster
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