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Old January 21, 2002, 08:54 PM   #1
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Talaban "Hit" Photo sequence!

A friend just forwarded this to me. Check it out. Our taxes at work!

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http://www.hunting-pictures.com/memb...er/taliban.jpg
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Old January 21, 2002, 09:01 PM   #2
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Whew!
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Old January 21, 2002, 09:09 PM   #3
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"Target, target, target! Cease fire!"
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Old January 21, 2002, 09:25 PM   #4
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Uh,guys...I remember seeing this on the net about a year ago.If memory serves it`s Russian soldiers being hit by Mujahedeen.
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Old January 21, 2002, 09:27 PM   #5
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Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

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Old January 21, 2002, 09:27 PM   #6
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Still cool, wherever it came from........
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Old January 21, 2002, 09:30 PM   #7
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Awwwwwww, poor putty tat! He fall down and go BOOM!!!
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Old January 21, 2002, 11:11 PM   #8
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Close, it was Russians getting killed by Chechens. Probably 152mm arty shell, small bomb or SAM warhead, command detonated. Was on Chechen website, about 6-8monthes ago. Semper Fidelis...Ken M
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Old January 21, 2002, 11:19 PM   #9
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They showed us that sequence last summer at OBC and said that it occured in Kosovo and was the result of an incorrectly cleared mine.
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Old January 21, 2002, 11:52 PM   #10
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I saw the video on Consumption Junction - looks like a mine hit, and you can see on the road where the mine was laid...
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Old January 22, 2002, 01:08 AM   #11
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Everyplace I have seen that it is said to be a BMP.
Really it is a BTR.
Something our LAV III wants to be. A BTR 80 would EAT our LAVs.
http://www.taos-inc.com/afvs.htm#btr-80
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Old January 22, 2002, 01:51 AM   #12
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There's plenty more of where that came from you Damn Towel Heads!!!!
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Old January 22, 2002, 09:24 AM   #13
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Old January 22, 2002, 10:25 AM   #14
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Hey, I remember seeing this a few months ago. Does anyone know where/when it actually happened?

Anyway, since when are F-14s doing ground-attack sorties? Why would two of them simultaneously drop bombs on an APC?
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Old January 22, 2002, 11:44 AM   #15
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It was Chechneya, not Kosovo, not Afganistan. Those are Russians, probably conscripts. It was a large charge, perhaps a mine, likely command detonated. The second shot(the one taking out the poor losers trying to retreat) is likely an RPG or perhaps a 40mm grenade(GP-25, 40mm muzzle loaded Soviet thing) The Chechan's videotaped it, and put it on their web site(I don't know, www.evil-terrorist.com?)

George, the BTR is a POS. A 14.5mm in an unstabilized mount is good vs troops(maybe), but the stabilized 25mm Bushmaster with thermals on the LAV will eat it everyday, and twice on Sundays. Plus American troops are trained five times better then even the best Russian troops, and it isn't even a contest. Why do people have this thing for Russian gear? It's mostly crap. Semper Fidelis...Ken M
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Old January 22, 2002, 01:30 PM   #16
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Y'all'r all wrong...

As one can clearly see, it is a wagon full of damyankees, gettin their cumupance from some faithful and true sons of the Confederancy. One can almost hear "Dixie" softly playing.
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Old January 22, 2002, 02:29 PM   #17
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Tomcats have been dropping bombs since shortly after they were shut out of the Gulf War. Though it's not their forte, they're now quite capable ground attack aircraft.
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Old January 22, 2002, 04:56 PM   #18
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The BTR can mount many other goodies other than the 14.7mm HMG. It's a POS? Right. Sure thing. Our aluminum hulled pepsi can LAVs could survive a tusle with a steel hulled BTR?
I want what your smoking.
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Old January 22, 2002, 05:00 PM   #19
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Geroge Hill says: "Everyplace I have seen that it is said to be a BMP.
Really it is a BTR.
Something our LAV III wants to be. A BTR 80 would EAT our LAVs."

Not quite Geroge. The BTR-80 is only protected against 7.62mm Ball ammuniton, the IAV variant of the LAV III has a base armor protection agaisnt 14.5mm B32 API. It will also have add-on armor to protect against unitary RPG-7.

BTRs are OK vehicles but are nothing compared to the LAV-III IAV.
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Old January 22, 2002, 05:26 PM   #20
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For a wheeled vehicle (armored car), i'd rather have the BTR over an LAV. Think about this... if you put the same amount of dollars into the BTR as you will for your LAV III, you will have one serious vehicle. You could afford to outfit it with additional armor, weapons and com systems... and still not come close to the cost of an LAV III. But money aside, the BTR is still better. STEEL. Real STEEL. Think about that.
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BTR-80A This vehicle incorporates a new turret system which is referred to as the modular weapon station (MWS). The MWS is of all welded steel construction. Mounted externally on the top of the turret is the same 30-mm 2A42 cannon that is fitted to the BMP-2. A PKT 7.62-mm machine-gun is mounted coaxially to the right of the 30-mm cannon. Mounted on either side of the cannon is a bank of three 81-mm electrically operated, forward firing smoke grenade launchers. Turret traverse is through 360º with weapon elevation being between -5 and +70º. Although it lacks the protection level of the BMP-2, the BTR-80A has the advantage of a higher road speed and range and, therefore greater strategic mobility.
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Old January 22, 2002, 06:16 PM   #21
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The BTR series has more potential than the LAV series. There is a BTR-90 being fielded now. The BTR has an armor layout that aides deflection and it's steel alloy doesn't produce lethal fumes like aluminum does when hit.
BTR has better cross-country performance and is wider than it is tall.

Russian gear mostly crap? Ask the Germans about that.



This footage of the APC going up isn't funny. Those men died. They were just grunts and likely had no choice as to where and why they were sent there. They were Russian Ministry of Interior troops not taliban. I've seen a very clear full speed version of this footage and it makes me very unhappy.
If any of you are knowingly laughing at these men dying you really suck.
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Old January 22, 2002, 06:48 PM   #22
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The first time I saw it, I thought it was a Taliban BTR... It was said to be a bomb from an F-14. Looking at it now, I have to agree that it looks like a mine. The second "hit" looks like a 40mm grenade mercy shot.

BTRs... They just look cool:
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Old January 22, 2002, 06:57 PM   #23
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I seriously doubt the pictures would have been declassified that soon.

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Old January 22, 2002, 07:29 PM   #24
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Russian gear mostly crap? Ask the Germans about that. <<<<

Well considering that WWII was fifty years ago, I suggest you re-evaluate. I'll take the Bundesheer over the Russian Army in a conventional war today, right now, thank you very much. The Russians can't even pay and feed and train their troops, and they consider going to KFOR to be a vacation(of course, their alternative was to likely wind up like these poor schmucks on the BTR). The Russians come up with lots of nifty toys, but they can not afford to field them, very much like the Germans in WWII.

As for aluminum, the M113 series is aluminum, and it's the most common AFV in the western world. So you get toxic fumes when it melts, you're either out of the vehicle already or you're a chunky paste coating the interior of the vehicle from the initial hit. There were a few LAV's that got hit by Mavericks in Saudi(thanks to the USAF and there were a couple survivors. A T-72/T-80 series gets hit, and it vaporizes the crew when the ammo cooks off. S/F...Ken M
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Could an LAV touch this? I don't think so.

Could an LAV even hope to survive? I don't think so!
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