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Old December 5, 2001, 12:06 AM   #1
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Handling my BDA .380 for the first time in years....

Despite the non-dehorned edges, questionable manufacturing origin and counter-intuitive slide mounted safety, I have to wonder where we're going?

We have Tennifer and HE finishes, $2,000+ 1911 style guns, polymer frames, Single Action & Double Action & Safe Action & DAO & DA/SA and who knows what. We have ambi this and ambi that; lights and tv's hanging off our weapons. We have guns made for small hands; guns made for gloved hands and guns made for Godzilla's hand.

To what end....the world of guns has gone "Tactical"....which means more compact, more firepower, more "grippy", more "blocky", more "specialized". This is all a good thing. But every now and then we need to handle a classic revolver, a well-put together Hi Power or something as tactically incorrect as a smooth grip little Browning BDA.

Dare I use the word....."sensual"? There I did it! Once upon a time firearms were "sensual" (not sexual, except in the wrong hands)...just sensual. They simply felt right. They balanced perfectly; they pointed instinctively; they required something less than a "combat rig" to carry comfortably.

If the right gun for a gunfight is *the one you have on you* and you've gotten lazy about strapping your latest whiz-bang, "Don't run; You'll only die tired" piece to your Wilderness belt under your "tactical concealment vest".....take a break for a few days. Dig into the back of the might be pleasantly surprised by a piece you'd retired years ago.
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Old December 5, 2001, 12:55 AM   #2
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I don't own Glock; Glock doesn't own me.

Or Sig or HK or any boxy, polymer gun except my practical, no longer available in California P32. And I own 15 handguns, as of this month. The only guns I buy anymore are "classics" with an emphasis on those about to become unavailable. Rich has put his finger on one of the reasons why.

Aside from the fact that it may soon be illegal to sell a gun without 17 safeties (four of which make no sense whatsoever)* where I live, the older designs just have more of the look and feel of a gun and less the look and feel of, say, a kitchen appliance. From Krups, but still.

Of those fifteen handguns, two are classic revolvers in .44 and .357 magnum, three are 1911s (two colts, one Springfield Armory), one is a CZ-75 BD, three are no longer manufactured, one is a Hungarian PPK clone, two may no longer be sold by dealers in my state.

My carry guns are a Colt Commander, a Colt .380 and an FEG .380.

I've shot HKs, CZ, Sigs, Glocks and Desert Eagles and I think they are very nice cartridge ignition/bullet delivery systems. I shoot them all well but I prefer a gunny-looking gun while I can still get one.

Regards to all. Sorry to all you Desert Eagle fans.
*Still just sarcastic hyperbole for the time being.
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Old December 5, 2001, 02:01 AM   #3
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Nice to hear the word sensual used in describing a handgun. When I look at the right handgun (or the right woman) I want to touch and I want to handle and I want to experience all the possibilities. I'll let the female parallels go for now but they clearly exist. A gun is, or can be, a thing of beauty and satisfaction.

Rich hit the right buttons. I do not lust after toasters or blenders or clunky handguns but give me a fine 9mm Luger or a gem-like 7.65 1935 Beretta or a wood gripped .44 Colt and I can't wait to get my hands on it and to shoot it. These are things of beauty.

I've shot all my life and remember a good friend describing a percussion .31 Colt Police Pocket Model as "the most beautiful pistol ever made" and when he handed it to me I felt what he meant. He prided himself on being a tough man but that insight showed him also to be a poet of the gun. I've also danced all my life, in the good old fashioned way men used to dance with women, strong, rough, physical. When I put my hands on a woman in dance it is the same sense of the sensual but of course the woman and the movement of the dance kicks everything into the sexual realm. I've enjoyed living that life. Guns and women. Wow!

Hard to beat this combination. Slip your round into the chamber, rack the slide, pull the trigger and let it go off. Sensual! Whoops, I find it hard to keep on track, I'm falling in love again! A Luger or a lover, a Beretta or a bare-bottom. I want to feel it and do it!

I'm all for the return of poetry and playful thinking to our sport.

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Old December 5, 2001, 02:21 AM   #4
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Old December 5, 2001, 04:31 AM   #5
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Browning BDA's-

Damn it! I missed out, as I should have
bought one years ago, when they first
came out! Definitely, the .380's are
one of the most beautiful handguns ever
produced. Saw a nickel one a few weeks
ago; ghee was it emaculate. My dealer
had a few in the early 80's, for the
sum of $379.00; if memory serves me

The larger frame BDA's (Browning Double
Action, for those who don't know) in .45
caliber, became the Sig-Sauer P220; in
later life, and the rest is history.

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Old December 5, 2001, 03:40 PM   #6
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I agree, the bda 380 and it sister the beretta md84 are great guns, very comfortable and easy to travel with. It is sure nice having them around.

My only complaint is wolff does not make the right size spring for mine (a known problem) and I am to lazy to order another from Beretta.

Great guns though, exceptionally reliable. I do think the md84 is easier to shoot, but the bda380 is better in the hand.
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Old December 5, 2001, 04:20 PM   #7
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GEEZ, I guess it's time to come out of the closet, and here I thought it was just me!! I agree totally. My preferences are the "gun looking" guns that just feel right in my hand. The 1911 and BHP classics, the browning/beretta .380's etc (and I have several of each!!). And there are others I'm eyeing as well. Nothing against the tuperware and higher tech new ones, but they are not for me. I grew up with manual external safeties, SA (or DA/SA) actions and am comfortable with "cocked and locked" carry. The simple elegance is "sensual" in a way. God I love this sport!!
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Old December 5, 2001, 06:13 PM   #8
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CDNN has the BDA .380 for $369. I'm outta work or I'd buy one.
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Old June 23, 2006, 09:29 PM   #9
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Love Browning BDA .380's - so I thought I'd bring back this thread.

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Old June 23, 2006, 09:42 PM   #10
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I fully agree that guns should be artful pieces of machinery. The younger crowd thinks they should look like something welded up from square tubing in a metal shop. Guns don't have to be made that way. They can be sleek and svelt. Making guns from square tubing should decrease the cost, but that doesn't seem to have happened.
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Old June 23, 2006, 10:09 PM   #11
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Good Thread

I'm reminded of my Dad's service revolver. He bought it when he first went on the job in 1960. Its a S&W, 4"bbl, six shot. Don't know the model. Still shoots like a dream and is as accurate as all get out. I don't care if its worth anything or not to anyone else, but, like his JC Higgins riot gun, it is a living part of our family's heritage. When he and I dig out that old shottie or his revolver, I can see him stepping back in time. He stands a little taller, and he seems to get back the bearing he had when he was a spit-shined patrolman, and me a wide eyed kid, telling the other kids, "That's my Dad...he's a policeman!" Will the polymer guns of today stand up to the test of time the way Dad's S&W has? Will we pass our Glocks on to our kids?
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Old June 25, 2006, 11:40 AM   #12
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BDA's are great guns. I prefer their sister Beretta M85/85 series as I like the frame mounted safety instead of the slide mounted safety of the BDA.
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Old June 25, 2006, 12:20 PM   #13
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I was 'sensual' before 'tactical' became the fad

Hey , if Rich can use the word "sensual" - I can too.

Every once in awhile an old thread needs to be revived, this is one such thread for the sake of "passing forward" to the newer folks.

I shot one of them BDA's not long ago, and I was reminded of this thread.

I also shot a J frame snubby in .22lr.

"Neat little bugger"

I would of said "cute" - then again I am a 6' 170# male...
...and "cute" is pax's word.

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Old June 29, 2006, 10:01 AM   #14
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From my experience, I must agree and disagree. I had a BDA 380 and agree, it's rich bluing and wood grips made it a "good looker", but I traded it away for several reasons. For a small gun it was heavy (13 +1 ) with a fat grip, a harsher "kick" (ergonomics of the grip?) than I expected, and would not feed Hydra-shok hollow points reliably (my most important reason for ditching it). I don't miss it, and cannot recommend it.

My carry gun is now a SIG P220 (believe it or not, I don't find the recoil any worse than the BDA 380) in .45 acp and with it's factory nickle slide and aftermarket coco-bolo grips it is every bit as beautiful as any semi-auto I know of. I like the P220 so much, I now have 2 of them.
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Old September 25, 2006, 02:44 PM   #15
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Looking for more BDA lovers -

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Old September 25, 2006, 04:33 PM   #16
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I in the tupperware generation, but I have recently turned away from these types of firearms. I won't say I'll never buy another polymer gun, but I won't quit buying Sigs anytime soon and its 1911s after that.

IMO Sigs are some of the most handsome autos out there. 1911s, Walther PPKs, Ruger MK IIs, and BHPs are guns I also see as attractive. The new Rohrbaugh R9 pocket pistols are pretty good looking too.
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Old September 26, 2006, 04:23 AM   #17
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In my collection, I can honestly say that it's the only semi-auto that has never had any type of malfunction. Mine will feed and eject anything and is a pleasure to shoot. No other gun of mine fits the hand better and points more naturally. I guess I need to get mine out of the safe more often too.

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Old September 28, 2006, 03:15 PM   #18
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He yRich, I remeber one i had years ago-wish it was still in my hand. Great "feeling" pistol just like you describe.
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Old September 28, 2006, 07:12 PM   #19
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are the ones at cdnn NIB? or are they used? ive never bought from them, but at that price i think ill get a nickel one.
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Old September 28, 2006, 07:52 PM   #20
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are the ones at cdnn NIB? or are they used? ive never bought from them, but at that price i think ill get a nickel one.

Are you sure CDNN has these?? I just looked and they aren't in the new download.
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Old September 28, 2006, 08:05 PM   #21
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How much? I would like a blued version to make my nickeled one!
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Old September 28, 2006, 08:18 PM   #22
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Hey SG427,

note the date of Popeye's post about CDNN. That was nearly five years ago. Bulbboy simply resurrected the old thread long after it had gone comatose.

Not, mind you, that it isn't a nice thread. There really is something special to some of the older, simpler things in life.
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Old September 28, 2006, 08:20 PM   #23
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Hey bulbboy,kinda like this one?
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The post is from 2001.

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Old September 28, 2006, 08:37 PM   #25
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Berettaman - just like that one!! I should have said something (about the thread being so old). Just wish they still made these.
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