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Old March 21, 2002, 11:41 AM   #1
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Dutchman sets new standards for weapons stash.

Got this from the London Times.

Dutchman quizzed after tank find

Dutch police are questioning a man after finding a Centurion tank and an arsenal of weapons in a boathouse in a small seaside town. A raid on the man's home in Noordwijkerhout uncovered more guns and "large amounts of ammunition", according to police, who say the 44-year-old man is believed to have purchased the tank for a collection, not to stage an attack. The confiscated arms include large calibre automatic weapons and machine guns. Investigators are trying to find out how he transported the massive British-made Centurion into the quiet resort.
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Old March 21, 2002, 12:17 PM   #2
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Me too.

I demand to know just where he got the Centurion, and just how he transported and stored it without arousing suspicion.

Also, are they taking anything in trade?
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Old March 21, 2002, 12:30 PM   #3
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The Centurion had a 105mm, right? What's the M&S one shot stop rating for that?
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Old March 21, 2002, 12:44 PM   #4
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"....Centurion tank...."

Daaaaaang.
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Old March 21, 2002, 01:18 PM   #5
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"Large amounts of ammunition"

Would that be 5,000 rounds of .30 caliber or 1,000 rounds of 105mm? Could be a clue as to his intentions.

Hope he never has a ND with the tank. ("It just went off by itself, I swear. Sorry about the hole in the wall honey.")
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Old March 21, 2002, 04:27 PM   #6
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Ok, so the guy had some gear.

Why are they confiscating it? Jealous?
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Old March 21, 2002, 04:31 PM   #7
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Woooo, automatic weapons AND machine guns! Wonder if he had any "banana clips" for those.
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Old March 21, 2002, 04:54 PM   #8
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That's not a tank- it's a high capacity SUV
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Old March 21, 2002, 05:38 PM   #9
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Damn man, I'll never beat that.
*Psssst!* Anyone got an Abrams for sale? What about a Bradley?

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Old March 21, 2002, 06:21 PM   #10
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From what I recall of the reenactor market, $30,000-$50,000 can get you a Stuart or Sherman tank in running condition. The main gun might another story, though...and the gas milage on tanks is terrible. You might consider a US halftrack instead. Toss on a couple rail-mounted MGs and maybe a mortar in the back...
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Old March 21, 2002, 06:30 PM   #11
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Three huzzahs for

Der Fliegender Hollander! Any man who can smuggle a tank into a resort deserves our admiration.
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Old March 21, 2002, 07:33 PM   #12
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Old March 21, 2002, 07:39 PM   #13
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For those so inclined to purchase a tank or, perhaps, a decommissioned Soviet missile truck (yeah, really!), this site is there to serve your military vehicle needs:

http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/index.htm
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Old March 21, 2002, 08:08 PM   #14
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OK, buying a tank isn't a problem. The question is what to put in the application for the gun...
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Old March 21, 2002, 08:17 PM   #15
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Remington 700ADL in 30.06
Remington 700VS in .308
HK USP-Full size in 9mm

VS.

Centurion tank.........

I am SO unworthy.
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Old March 21, 2002, 08:22 PM   #16
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y'all know...

... if our wives loved us, they'd buy us Centurians!





Mine just informed me that she doesn't love me THAT much
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Old March 21, 2002, 08:30 PM   #17
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That HAS to be compensating for SOMTHING!!!!
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Old March 21, 2002, 08:35 PM   #18
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I like the way that man thinks!
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Old March 21, 2002, 08:50 PM   #19
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Random observations:

1. Who's responsible for policing up the brass out of that Centurion?

2. Does Dillon make a die set for the 105mm?

3. How much powder would it take to fill up one of those cases to capacity?

3a. Does Midway USA deliver powder by the ton?

3b. What would the HazMat fees be?
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Old March 21, 2002, 08:55 PM   #20
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Check out this guy's inventory: http://www.milvehtechfound.com/index.html I'll be touring the place next month.
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Old March 21, 2002, 10:54 PM   #21
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it ain't THAT hard.. Military Vehicles Collectors Clubs all over the whole world, I helped rebuild a Centurion in British Columbia a while back..(it was owned by a Artty type, I was the only zipper working on it..)

and as for moving it, flat bed. and a HUGE tarp (or set of tarps) who the hecks gonna figure it's a tank???

my hats off to the guy, hope he can beat the rap...
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Old March 22, 2002, 12:54 AM   #22
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Impressive. Unlike Shermans or half tracks the Centurian was a front line main battle tank at least as late as the 1980s (maybe the late 70s).
I hate to rain on this guy's parade but this story can be beat. I watched a show the other night on the History Channel about the Russian mob. A Russian mobster, running a strip joint in Florida, brokered the purchase of a Russian submarine with missles to a Columbian for 15 million dollars. They even went over to Russia and checked it out with the crew on board and were given the tour by the captain of the boat. That must be a hell of a way to lose your command. They made this sound like it was a sub that was actively serving in the Russian Navy and not something out of a boneyard.
One thing they didn't say that I would have liked to know is whether it was a diesel boat or a nuke. And what kind of missles were on it.
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Old March 22, 2002, 01:10 AM   #23
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New cantidate for 'most/best toys owned'
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Old March 22, 2002, 01:39 AM   #24
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the ammo stash was a box of 22lr in the cupboard . I want to see the bullet moulds hes using to find out if they are lee or lyman .
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Old March 22, 2002, 02:25 AM   #25
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"Where'd he get a Centurian tank?" - Well don't look at me - I checked and mines still parked where I left it!
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