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Old December 30, 2001, 09:27 AM   #1
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Blue Dot for .380 ACP

I got some new dies for christmas, so I'm looking for some good loads for .380 w/ 90gr JHP. Alliant's web site lists a load for Blue Dot with a max of 6gr. Is there anyone out there that has tried this load? I am looking for a load that will equal the Hydra-shok in POA and felt recoil in my Mustang. I am also going to make some with Bullseye for target work. Suggestions? Comments?
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Old December 30, 2001, 01:30 PM   #2
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I've never had much luck using Blue Dot with the lower pressure cartridges; it usually leaves too much unburnt powder in my .38 Special loads as well as my .45 ACP loads.

I prefer medium to fast powders for the target loads I shoot out of my Sig P230.

3.4 grains (3.6 grains max) Hodgdon Universal Clays (NOT International Clays or "regular" Clays)
88 grain Remington JHP bullet
COAL 0.955"
Any standard small pistol primer (Winchester, Federal, Remington, CCI, or Fiocchi)

It gives me about the same point of impact as the Hydrashok.

These days, though, I've moved on to the 100 grainers, since they best approximate what I carry in this baby, the Remington Golder Saber 102 grainer.

3.2 grains (3.4 grains max) Hodgdon Universal Clays (NOT International Clays or "regular" Clays)
100 grain Berry's TCJ-RN plated bullet
COAL 0.985"
Any standard small pistol primer (Winchester, Federal, Remington, CCI, or Fiocchi)

These loads work flawlessly in my Sig P230. Naturally, I can't speak of their functionality (or, potentially, lack thereof) if they were used in a Walther PPK/S, etc..
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Old December 30, 2001, 02:12 PM   #3
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Blue Dot will probably work, but it is usually used in the larger capacity cases with heavy crimp. It is a slow burner as pistol/revo loads go and a tad dirty. I'd try a slightly faster burner. Red Dot, W231, Unique, Universal Clays, etc.. Chemistry's got some good ideas.
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Old December 30, 2001, 03:58 PM   #4
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Consider using Unique. 4.0 grns will work with up to 95 grn FMJ's. My 380's all seem to like 4.0 grns of Unique with 88 grn Rem JHP's. Very good general load.
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Old December 30, 2001, 06:45 PM   #5
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With a 90 Gr bullet , if you want a hot load use 3.4Gr Bullseye .OAL 0.970 981 FPS.
For target shooting I would drop it down to 3.2Gr Bullseye
OAL 0.970

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