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Old February 10, 2014, 04:06 PM   #1
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Lee 452-255-RF @ 270 gr @ 1,200FPS

This bullet, cast with clip-on wheel weights @ 270 grains, water quenched and moving at 1,200 FPS...where would you draw the line at in using this for backcountry defense (under 30 yards)? What animals start to be out of it's league in terms of defense (NOT hunting)?

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Old February 10, 2014, 05:17 PM   #2
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Good looking bullet.

I don't think the bullet is what determines whether the defense is justified as much as what the threat is.
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Old February 10, 2014, 06:01 PM   #3
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Cape buffalo?? That's a lot of horsepower. If you're talking about the lower 48, there's nothing I'd worry about with those. Just make sure they hold together on impact. They look like they'd be a fine hunting load as well. If you're down south, that should whack a hog pretty well. What animals do you have in mind? There is a big difference between a ****** off black bear and an elephant.
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Old February 10, 2014, 08:01 PM   #4
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About like a max load from a .44 Mag, approximately. Maybe a bit slower, but good enough for anything up to black bear, anyhow.
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Old February 11, 2014, 02:06 PM   #5
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For hunting I bet it would work on most any thing in north america. For stopping power... I dont think you can have too much gun. I agree with the above post Black Bear probably.
Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull.

all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...
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Old February 12, 2014, 08:36 PM   #6
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Bryan Pearce loaded a 280gr SWC at 1070fps in a 45 Ruger Flattop. Shot through a large black bear at 40 yards, six times. I've loaded a 275 LFN at 1060 and it blows through 8" Pine trees at 50'. You've got plenty of horsepower for anything in the 48.
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