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Old August 28, 2013, 11:16 AM   #26
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I guess it would depend a lot on where you live but in the lower 48 I would say

1. 22lr
2. 12 Gauge
3. 243 Winchester (or 223/5.56 if you had to have an AR rifle/carbine)
4. 308 Winchester or 30-06.
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Old August 28, 2013, 12:54 PM   #27
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Remembering that this is a rifle battery in Alaska, here's what I'd choose:

1) .22LR
2) .308
3) .375 H&H
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Old August 29, 2013, 01:16 AM   #28
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Well I wasn't originally thinking -for- Alaska so much as saying that my choices are skewed since I live here already.

Good stuff though, I appreciate the 270 options to think about, in case I someday get to go to Wyoming to take on a speed goat.

I was thinking more towards folks new to long arms and how to help them not buy four rifles that are all good for the same thing; no one so far has suggested a 30-06 and a .308 and 2 other similar rifles as a good selection.
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Old August 29, 2013, 10:10 AM   #29
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I live in far Northern Alberta. Not unlike Alaska.

22lr and 30'06 is all you need, period.

A 223 bolt is nice for practicing at the range on the cheap. My 223 and 30'06 are the same brand and type of rifle with the same mounts and scope. Practicing on one = practicing on the other.

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Old August 29, 2013, 10:52 AM   #30
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270, period. Can be loaded as low as needed for varmints and as high as needed for big bear (not recommended but it can be done). Realistically will take moose just fine.

22 is not a battery gun.

Jack O C would be rolling in his grave to hear the AR being talked up as a battery gun.

And yes 4 inches at 200 would be doing very good with an AR. I have shot enough to know that the accuracy is vastly over stated.
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Old August 29, 2013, 01:06 PM   #31
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The most basic battery for me is:

* .22LR bolt or semi (10/22) for pests, small game

* .30-06 bolt with scope (Sako A7), with handloading especially it can handle a wide range of game (or a .270, .280)

Optional, nice to have:

* .223 For fur hunting the .223 in an AR15 would be handy and fun. But a bolt action like the Tikka T3 would be great as well. Very popular for coyotes here.

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Old August 29, 2013, 03:47 PM   #32
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1. 22 LR

2. .223 AR-15

3. .308 Bolt gun

4. .45-70 Marlin (or .450)

Whoever said the .30-06 performs better than the .45-70 when loaded right doesnt know what they are talking about. The .30-06 may have the range, but it will never out-penetrate a equally well loaded .45-70 slug.
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Old August 29, 2013, 07:20 PM   #33
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I could get along well hunting everything on this continent with a .22 LR, 30-06, and 338-06. If I were to do a lot of varmint or prairie dog hunting I would probably add a .223.

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Old August 29, 2013, 08:11 PM   #34
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.22 lr 10/22

30-30 lever gun

30-06 bolt

.58 or. 62 caplock

Covers all the bases

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Old August 30, 2013, 01:52 PM   #35
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22 LR
and any main battle rifle cartridge. 30-06, 308, 7.62X54R, etc.

Would be more than enough.
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If I were on a serious budget.

Really I would probably do it with 2. 22/lr and 6.5X55 or .270, 0r some other flavor of intermediate.
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Old August 30, 2013, 01:56 PM   #36
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I'd be happy with an 06 and 22lr, but it's always nice to have a backup incase you bump a scope.
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Old August 31, 2013, 03:08 PM   #37
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22LR and .30'06 I'd need to have no more than those two calibers.
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Old August 31, 2013, 06:51 PM   #38
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My choices would probably be...

Ruger 10/22 or Savage Mk II BV (.22 LR)

Savage 16/116 (.243 or 22-250)

Savage Precision Carbine (.308 Win.) or Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather SS (30-06)

Marlin 1895 SBL (45-70)

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Old August 31, 2013, 07:34 PM   #39
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honestly all bases covered with .22lr and .30-06, i guess the additional 2 would be an ar in 6.8 spc(for pigs) and .270 just cuz. i don't know much about the behavior of the game in alaska, but those are the 4 i would choose.
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Old September 1, 2013, 05:28 AM   #40
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.22WMR, AR 15 in .223/6.8SPC, .308, .338 WinMag. I guess the added barrel for my AR15 makes 5 guns, but what the heck. I could live with just those rifles and a decent sidearm, perhaps a .41Mag revolver. Lucky for me I don't have to live with 4 rifles. I have other calibers, it's just that those are my primary hunting rifles. I recently purchased a 17WSM which might replace my 22WMR as the rimfire of choice. It's a pretty good shooter.
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Old September 1, 2013, 07:30 PM   #41
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I don't know about battery, but 22lr, 303 British, and 12 gauge
unlike Weatherby Fan I don't live in northern Alberta, but I have spent a lot of time near Grimshaw
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Old September 2, 2013, 05:39 PM   #42
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5.56 chambered AR
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Old September 2, 2013, 06:08 PM   #43
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Mr Raw, your battery sounds like mine - with the exception that my .22LR is O/U with a .410 barrel. Although I am getting a very nice .22LR bolt action somewhere down the road.

I would nominate for a four-rifle battery:

.22LR - don't be caught without it.

Something centrefire that shoots .224" bullets; possibly a .22-250, as they seem to be fairly popular round here and it's a well-proven cartridge with a good reputation. OTOH .223 Rem would let me into a lot of target competitions which wouldn't be accessible to my sentimental favourite, the...

.303 British - for deer to moose, and to keep in practice with heavyweight centrefires because...

If I ever needed something for really heavyweight beasties (larger bears including the white ones, for example), I might consider a .375 H&H. Is there anything in the North American landmass this wouldn't kill, applied properly?
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Old September 2, 2013, 06:41 PM   #44
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Right now I have 22LR and 444 Marlin.

I don't presently have a need to shoot over about 150 yards.

But if I do, I'll be looking for a .270 or something similar.
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Old September 5, 2013, 04:45 PM   #45
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A 22lr and a 30-06 should cover all of your bases. I hardly think four rifles is a "minimum".
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Old September 7, 2013, 09:19 AM   #46
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"Aiint too many problems that a man cant fix, with 300 dollars and a 30-06". I vote for .22, a fast .30 (06 min) and a 12 gauge. Thank God I am fortunate enough to not have to limit myself anymore.
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Old September 7, 2013, 10:40 AM   #47
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Since we are talking limited budget I'd say-

1. Single-shot bolt .22LR
2. Bolt 30-06
3. .50 cal muzzle loader
4. Pump 12 ga. (not a rifle, but still..)
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Old September 7, 2013, 11:38 AM   #48
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338wm 180 to 275gr. Bullets
30 06 110 to 200 gr.
6mm rem from about 70 to 105 gr.
Not much in the way of gaps here and can handle anything from cotton tails to moose.
I would also have to have a 12 guage, probably an 1100 with an extra deer barrel.

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Old September 7, 2013, 11:41 AM   #49
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Old September 8, 2013, 07:08 AM   #50
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.308 or 30-06 ( I have both and love em.)

An 1895 in 45-70 is on my short list
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