Pistol Caliber Rifles - Page 3

Gaucho Gringo · June 11, 2013, 05:13 PM

I don't know how effective a pistol caliber rifle is but the Turks killed thousands and thousands of Russians with '66 Winchesters. But the only reason they won was unlimited manpower, they could adsorb a 100 to 1 casualty rate.

arch308 · June 11, 2013, 05:54 PM

I can see hunting with one, like a .357 or 44 mag. In fact I do on occassion hunt with my 45 Colt Rossi. I look at it like bow hunting, just a way to make hunting more challenging.

trkkshotbry · June 13, 2013, 01:05 AM

I think PCCs are very practical and cool. I currently have a 1911 and a HiPoint 45 carbine w/ red dot sight. I shoot 230gr JHPs in the 1911 and 230gr +P+ FMJs in the HiPoint. I figure the pistol is for up close work and the carbine is good out to 100yds but zeroed at 50. If the threat is more than 100yds from me I'm going to do my best to increase that distance as rapidly as possible.
Yes I'm keeping track of two ammos but able to use either load in either gun and in a SHTF scenario that could make the critical difference.
I would love to get a SA revolver and a lever gun in 45C for when Im feeling nostalgic as the performance of my load choices would nearly duplicate what I'm running in more modern equipment. I wont be locked into sub 100yds engagements though in case your worried I keep a couple AKs and a PTR91 (.308) around just in case I need to convert cover into concealment or take a long range shot but in all reality I'm more likely to rely on distance and maneuverability to keep my family safe rather than try to slug it out with unknown forces at ranges of 1/4 mile plus.
So within my envelope of strategy and proficiency a PCC is indeed practical and COOL!

Boomer58cal · June 15, 2013, 11:59 PM

I have 2 Ruger super blacks and super red hawk in .44 mag. Combined with my old 94 win in. 44 mag you're doing pretty good on firepower. Now if I can just get a pair of desert eagles and turn one into a carbine

Boomer

106RR · June 23, 2013, 03:12 AM

I have a Ballard rifled Marlin 1894 in 357 mag. It handles all 357 and most 38 special it will not feed wadcutters. I have no illusions about SHTF scenarios, but it is an excellent carbine.
It is legally acceptable in the lunatic legal environment in which I live. It is the only carbine my wife will shoot. This last advantage trumps all others. I doubt that I would sport hunt with it. With good ammo it's adequate for small to medium game where I live. The 357 gains about 300 fps when fired In a carbine. It's outstanding in the role of defense.

Meeteetse · July 14, 2013, 06:08 PM

I have pairs in .22, .357, 44 mag and 45 Colt. They are not only fun to shoot but the rifles in those calibers have proven very effective on small to medium sized game like Texas whitetails. The 44 mag has taken Wyoming mule deer and several varmints of various species in both handgun and rifle.

I suppose the idea of one caliber for all your carry guns is a little outdated, but that does not take away from the fun aspect or the self defense capabilities. Matching calibers to rifles and handguns may not be my "go to" choice when SHTF but it wouldn't be a bad choice. Besides, during this ammo shortage, I have been able to add to my 45 Colt and 44 mag options when the .308, .223 and 9mm were nowhere to be found.

HawkeyeNRAlifer · July 16, 2013, 10:36 PM

I use my pcc's for fun and comparing loads with common caliber handguns. I've a 9mm Hi Point and a few 9mm autos, and a Beretta CX-4 and a mess of 45 autos. Other than a couple of rabbit hunting outings, they don't get used as much as I envisioned. I thought they would be more practical, but most of my 45's hold more rounds than the eight in the CX4. Nice looking and accurate, but could sure benefit from a 20 round mag.

Bake · August 3, 2013, 01:28 PM

The cool factors is quite high in the rifle / revolver combination, but which weapon do you reload for?

Axelwik · August 4, 2013, 09:12 PM

Just picked up a Rossi 92 to go with my Super Blackhawk. Unfortunately my Elmer Kieth and gas checked SWC bullets are too long to function in the Rossi. Hornady XTPs however, feed very nice. At least I can shoot them in the wheel gun.

Thinking about trading my 336 30-30 for a Rossi or Marlin in 357 to go with my GP100.

June 11, 2013, 05:13 PM	#51
Gaucho Gringo Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 366	I don't know how effective a pistol caliber rifle is but the Turks killed thousands and thousands of Russians with '66 Winchesters. But the only reason they won was unlimited manpower, they could adsorb a 100 to 1 casualty rate. __________________ 357 Taurus Gaucho, 22 Heritage RR, 2-Pietta 1858 44 NMA Remingtons, Pietta, Euroarms & ASM 36 1851 Navies, 31 Uberti 1849, 12 ga H&R Topper, 16 Ga Western Field, 43 Spanish Remington Rolling Block, 44 ASM Colt Walker, High Point C9 9mm, Winchester 1906 22, Rossi 62 22 rifle, Uberti 1860, H&A & IJ 32 S&W BreakTop, 36 Euroarms 1858, 32 H&R 04, 22mag NAA SS BP revolver, .44 Rodgers & Spencer, IJ 38 S&W BreakTop, IJ 22 Sealed 8

June 13, 2013, 01:05 AM	#53
trkkshotbry Member Join Date: June 6, 2012 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 62	pistol calibre carbines are cool. I think PCCs are very practical and cool. I currently have a 1911 and a HiPoint 45 carbine w/ red dot sight. I shoot 230gr JHPs in the 1911 and 230gr +P+ FMJs in the HiPoint. I figure the pistol is for up close work and the carbine is good out to 100yds but zeroed at 50. If the threat is more than 100yds from me I'm going to do my best to increase that distance as rapidly as possible. Yes I'm keeping track of two ammos but able to use either load in either gun and in a SHTF scenario that could make the critical difference. I would love to get a SA revolver and a lever gun in 45C for when Im feeling nostalgic as the performance of my load choices would nearly duplicate what I'm running in more modern equipment. I wont be locked into sub 100yds engagements though in case your worried I keep a couple AKs and a PTR91 (.308) around just in case I need to convert cover into concealment or take a long range shot but in all reality I'm more likely to rely on distance and maneuverability to keep my family safe rather than try to slug it out with unknown forces at ranges of 1/4 mile plus. So within my envelope of strategy and proficiency a PCC is indeed practical and COOL!

June 15, 2013, 11:59 PM	#54
Boomer58cal Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2013 Location: closer than you think Posts: 967	I have 2 Ruger super blacks and super red hawk in .44 mag. Combined with my old 94 win in. 44 mag you're doing pretty good on firepower. Now if I can just get a pair of desert eagles and turn one into a carbine Boomer __________________ The number one cause of death in the 20th century. 290,000,000 citizens were first disarmed and then murdered by their own governments. This number does not include those killed in war. We're from the government, we're here to help

July 14, 2013, 06:08 PM	#56
Meeteetse Member Join Date: January 1, 2012 Location: Wyoming - Texas Posts: 69	I have pairs in .22, .357, 44 mag and 45 Colt. They are not only fun to shoot but the rifles in those calibers have proven very effective on small to medium sized game like Texas whitetails. The 44 mag has taken Wyoming mule deer and several varmints of various species in both handgun and rifle. I suppose the idea of one caliber for all your carry guns is a little outdated, but that does not take away from the fun aspect or the self defense capabilities. Matching calibers to rifles and handguns may not be my "go to" choice when SHTF but it wouldn't be a bad choice. Besides, during this ammo shortage, I have been able to add to my 45 Colt and 44 mag options when the .308, .223 and 9mm were nowhere to be found. __________________ All it takes for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

August 3, 2013, 01:28 PM	#58
Bake Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2012 Location: San Joaquin Valley, Calif. Posts: 482	The cool factors is quite high in the rifle / revolver combination, but which weapon do you reload for? Last edited by Bake; August 3, 2013 at 01:52 PM.

June 11, 2013, 05:54 PM	#52
arch308 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 876	I can see hunting with one, like a .357 or 44 mag. In fact I do on occassion hunt with my 45 Colt Rossi. I look at it like bow hunting, just a way to make hunting more challenging.

June 23, 2013, 03:12 AM	#55
106RR Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2002 Posts: 234	I have a Ballard rifled Marlin 1894 in 357 mag. It handles all 357 and most 38 special it will not feed wadcutters. I have no illusions about SHTF scenarios, but it is an excellent carbine. It is legally acceptable in the lunatic legal environment in which I live. It is the only carbine my wife will shoot. This last advantage trumps all others. I doubt that I would sport hunt with it. With good ammo it's adequate for small to medium game where I live. The 357 gains about 300 fps when fired In a carbine. It's outstanding in the role of defense.

July 16, 2013, 10:36 PM	#57
HawkeyeNRAlifer Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 316	I use my pcc's for fun and comparing loads with common caliber handguns. I've a 9mm Hi Point and a few 9mm autos, and a Beretta CX-4 and a mess of 45 autos. Other than a couple of rabbit hunting outings, they don't get used as much as I envisioned. I thought they would be more practical, but most of my 45's hold more rounds than the eight in the CX4. Nice looking and accurate, but could sure benefit from a 20 round mag.

August 4, 2013, 09:12 PM	#59
Axelwik Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2012 Location: Land of Enchantment Posts: 436	Just picked up a Rossi 92 to go with my Super Blackhawk. Unfortunately my Elmer Kieth and gas checked SWC bullets are too long to function in the Rossi. Hornady XTPs however, feed very nice. At least I can shoot them in the wheel gun. Thinking about trading my 336 30-30 for a Rossi or Marlin in 357 to go with my GP100.