new CNN article on Colt Defense, CT area gun issues....

ClydeFrog · June 12, 2013, 12:43 PM

CNN, www.CNN.com reporter Wayne Drash put out a detailed item about Colt Defense & the workers(670) of the West Hartford CT plant.
It's a interesting read to get more insight from the factory workers of America's gun valley.

CF
PS the article about Colt Defense was dated 06/08/2013.

**Spats McGee** · June 12, 2013, 12:46 PM

I think this is the article you're looking for: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/08/us/col...ate/index.html

Armorer-at-Law · June 12, 2013, 04:05 PM

Really good article.

22-rimfire · June 12, 2013, 04:55 PM

Not a bad article. It reflects well the CT Gov's attitude on firearms.

The only thing in that article that caused my hackles to raise is the 90% favor universal background checks. That is simply not true. I suppose we will continue to read about a biased survey results for the next 20 years when politicians or writers want to make their point that universal background checks are strongly favored by the American public.

ClydeFrog · June 12, 2013, 10:30 PM

I considered the CNN article on Colt Defense to be fair & even-handed.
What I was curious to know is why Colt no longer produces the highly rated Python .357magnum line or any concealed carry size D frame .38spl revolvers.

My guess would be the labor intensive production & needed skills kept Colt execs from marketing the DA revolvers like the 1980s/1990s; The Python, The .44 Anaconda(which is still around at gun shows) and the med-range King Cobra.
The awful Colt P2000 9x19mm showed that Colt wasn't really ready for the LE/armed citizen pistol market. If you do not recall, the P2000 was a Colt DA only type pistol that can quickly convert from a duty size to a compact off duty size.

The 1911a1 frame type "Double Eagle" didn't ring any bells for US gunners either. It was a huge DA/SA type .45acp meant to compete with the S&W 4506 and the more ideal SIG P220 or BDA.

ClydeFrog

LockedBreech · June 12, 2013, 10:40 PM

I thought it was a very even-handed treatment of the issue. Good journalism, for a mass-media source.

fragtagninja · June 12, 2013, 10:58 PM

I was just reading something about that clyde not to long ago. It said something about the cost of building them was getting too high.

KyJim · June 13, 2013, 09:07 AM

Colt Python --
short version -- aging equipment, aging workers who could build them, out-dated design in that it required a lot of hand labor, demand not high enough

shorter version -- money

ClydeFrog · June 13, 2013, 12:52 PM

Post 8 sounds about right.
Not to get political but I'd heard Colt & the factory workers in Hartford had a huge labor dispute a few years ago which caused a major shake up in the small arms production.

Ending the Colt Python & Anaconda DA revolvers was a part of the fall out.
Author & tactics instructor Massad Ayoob put out a article or two on the plant & how the Detective line, Python, King Cobra, etc were no longer manufactured by Colt workers.

FWIW, Colt Defense opened a small facility in central Florida near Orlando.

Florida is a "right to work" state.

I'd be curious to know if Colt would ever return to making any Pythons or DA revolvers. They could also sell the production rights & specs to a different firm that could maintain the the high QC standards.

Clyde

Dr Big Bird PhD · June 13, 2013, 02:49 PM

I was pleasantly surprised by the article, that's for sure

Sounds like sitting down with a responsible, CEO of a fire-arms company brought some sense to the writer. "Some".

SHE3PDOG · June 13, 2013, 08:21 PM

The article, while being relatively balanced, did seem to lean towards the anti side of things. He brought up the 90% poll and also added a few undertones of being displeased with Colt for not acting.

**Aguila Blanca** · June 13, 2013, 11:40 PM

I am displeased with Colt for not acting, too.

I really want them to leave Connecticut.

Double Naught Spy · June 14, 2013, 10:43 AM

They are doing better than some in that regard, AB...
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/colt-...ol-laws_042013

KyJim · June 14, 2013, 02:13 PM

Colt Competition does not appear to be a true part of Colt Firearms or Colt Manufacturing according to at least one report of the move to Texas:

Quote:

Colt Competition is part of Bold Ideas Inc., which licenses Colt’s iconic brand to craft competition shooting rifles

http://www.reporternews.com/news/201...-breckenridge/

I will have to say, they are making some sharp looking rifles. http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/

Double Naught Spy · June 14, 2013, 04:51 PM

Oh well...

June 12, 2013, 12:43 PM	#1
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	new CNN article on Colt Defense, CT area gun issues.... CNN, www.CNN.com reporter Wayne Drash put out a detailed item about Colt Defense & the workers(670) of the West Hartford CT plant. It's a interesting read to get more insight from the factory workers of America's gun valley. CF PS the article about Colt Defense was dated 06/08/2013.

June 12, 2013, 12:46 PM	#2
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	I think this is the article you're looking for: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/08/us/col...ate/index.html __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

June 12, 2013, 04:05 PM	#3
Armorer-at-Law Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2002 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 465	Really good article. __________________ Send lawyers, guns, and money... Armorer-at-Law.com 07FFL/02SOT

June 12, 2013, 10:30 PM	#5
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	Colt Python; P2000 series... I considered the CNN article on Colt Defense to be fair & even-handed. What I was curious to know is why Colt no longer produces the highly rated Python .357magnum line or any concealed carry size D frame .38spl revolvers. My guess would be the labor intensive production & needed skills kept Colt execs from marketing the DA revolvers like the 1980s/1990s; The Python, The .44 Anaconda(which is still around at gun shows) and the med-range King Cobra. The awful Colt P2000 9x19mm showed that Colt wasn't really ready for the LE/armed citizen pistol market. If you do not recall, the P2000 was a Colt DA only type pistol that can quickly convert from a duty size to a compact off duty size. The 1911a1 frame type "Double Eagle" didn't ring any bells for US gunners either. It was a huge DA/SA type .45acp meant to compete with the S&W 4506 and the more ideal SIG P220 or BDA. ClydeFrog

June 12, 2013, 10:40 PM	#6
LockedBreech Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2009 Location: Rocky Mountain West Posts: 3,395	I thought it was a very even-handed treatment of the issue. Good journalism, for a mass-media source. __________________ 16 Pistols, 5 Rifles, 1 Shotgun, no time to shoot them Last edited by LockedBreech; June 12, 2013 at 11:06 PM.

June 12, 2013, 04:55 PM	#4
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	Not a bad article. It reflects well the CT Gov's attitude on firearms. The only thing in that article that caused my hackles to raise is the 90% favor universal background checks. That is simply not true. I suppose we will continue to read about a biased survey results for the next 20 years when politicians or writers want to make their point that universal background checks are strongly favored by the American public.

June 12, 2013, 10:58 PM	#7
fragtagninja Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2013 Posts: 194	I was just reading something about that clyde not to long ago. It said something about the cost of building them was getting too high.

June 13, 2013, 09:07 AM	#8
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	Colt Python -- short version -- aging equipment, aging workers who could build them, out-dated design in that it required a lot of hand labor, demand not high enough shorter version -- money

June 13, 2013, 12:52 PM	#9
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	post #8.... Post 8 sounds about right. Not to get political but I'd heard Colt & the factory workers in Hartford had a huge labor dispute a few years ago which caused a major shake up in the small arms production. Ending the Colt Python & Anaconda DA revolvers was a part of the fall out. Author & tactics instructor Massad Ayoob put out a article or two on the plant & how the Detective line, Python, King Cobra, etc were no longer manufactured by Colt workers. FWIW, Colt Defense opened a small facility in central Florida near Orlando. Florida is a "right to work" state. I'd be curious to know if Colt would ever return to making any Pythons or DA revolvers. They could also sell the production rights & specs to a different firm that could maintain the the high QC standards. Clyde

June 13, 2013, 02:49 PM	#10
Dr Big Bird PhD Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 779	I was pleasantly surprised by the article, that's for sure Sounds like sitting down with a responsible, CEO of a fire-arms company brought some sense to the writer. "Some". __________________ I told the new me, "Meet me at the bus station and hold a sign that reads: 'Today is the first day of the rest of your life.'" But the old me met me with a sign that read: "Welcome back." Who you are is not a function of where you are. -Off Minor

June 13, 2013, 08:21 PM	#11
SHE3PDOG Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2013 Posts: 988	The article, while being relatively balanced, did seem to lean towards the anti side of things. He brought up the 90% poll and also added a few undertones of being displeased with Colt for not acting. __________________ Semper Fi Marine, NRA member, SAF Defender's Club member, and constitutionally protected keeper and bearer of firearms

June 13, 2013, 11:40 PM	#12
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,459	I am displeased with Colt for not acting, too. I really want them to leave Connecticut.

June 14, 2013, 10:43 AM	#13
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	They are doing better than some in that regard, AB... http://www.thedailysheeple.com/colt-...ol-laws_042013 __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

June 14, 2013, 04:51 PM	#15
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Oh well... __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange