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Old May 10, 2013, 01:35 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by FrankenMauser
I know you have been forced to live with those restrictions for a long time, and have become accustomed to the atmosphere, but it isn't gun-friendly by any means.
I'm not talking about the laws. I'm talking about the people, but the laws (until the SAFE Act, which will NOT stand) aren't as bad as the legends, either.

Most folks in upstate NY are just like most folks in Idaho or Utah. No one is going to freak out over seeing a gun. It is perfectly legal and quite common to buy/sell/trade long guns in public, no background checks required. Public and private gun ranges are common. Hearing gunshots in the distance is a daily occurrence. No one is bothered.

We don't have any restrictions on powder or primers.

We don't have to hide the fact that we own guns from our neighbors or talk about it in hushed tones.

Some of our laws are stupid, but most folks in upstate are no different than the folks in rural parts of other states.
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Old May 17, 2013, 01:58 PM   #27
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“I don’t tend to take things lying down, so I went past the parents, and so I walked straight over and I confronted him,” said Leni Calas. “I mean, he’s brandishing a firearm and I don’t care if that firearm is plastic. That’s unacceptable
This is, to me, the most incredible part. She was morally outraged, because the guy playing with the toy gun scared she confronted him.

I suppose its a good thing for all of us that it was just a toy gun, as a real gun in the hands of a bad guy might have shot her, and again, the gun would get ALL the blame.


As to the poor schmuck getting charged with all that, yeah, that's NYC SOP. Citizens complained. Guy gets arrested, and charged with everything that they can think of. OK, airsoft, pellet, and toyguns are regulated in NYC. If he didn't follow NYC law about registration and ownership, then he is guilty of that. Doesn't matter how foolish we think the law is, it is what it is, until/unless it gets changed. That part, I think will be open and shut.

Reckless endangerment, endangering the welfare of a minor, and even the resisting arrest are open to dispute, in court, dependant on the specifics of his actions. Without the details not included in sound byte reporting, I make no judgement about the validity of the charges. Maybe the guy didn't really DO anything and people vastly over reacted. Maybe he was an idiot, and did things that put "reasonable" people in fear for their lives...I just don't know...

Although, I feel that if they were in fear for their lives, walking straight over and confronting him isn't a good rational choice....
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Old May 17, 2013, 07:04 PM   #28
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Sort of makes me wistful for the days of my youth, with double holsters and fairly realistic SAA cap guns in each, loaded with a roll of caps apiece - equivalent to about 40 round magazines. And then the BB guns came, and no bird was safe. No lizard either (SoCal). Oh yeah - the wrist-rocket slingshots! those were a hoot. And the day i figured out how to blast a whole roll of caps at once on the curb with my dad's framing hammer...

Jeeze, just come and arrest me.
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Old May 17, 2013, 08:24 PM   #29
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This is, to me, the most incredible part. She was morally outraged, because the guy playing with the toy gun scared she confronted him.
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As much as I hate reading these stories...he played with fire and got burnt.
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