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Old March 30, 2013, 06:55 PM   #51
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There are 1000's of Winchester model 12's languishing on gun store shelves. Other than collectible guns, field models can be had for less than 300.00
Not around here - $400 and up for beaters - but these are pawn shops

Look at the latest ATF data showing 2011 production. The link is still floating around this thread.
I'd like to see that data - post a link if you can

Mossberg made ZERO shotguns in Connecticut in 2011. They assembled 423,570 shotguns in Texas in 2011.
It was my understanding that the barrels for Mavericks were made in Mexico and those guns were assembled in Eagle's Pass, TX but that the others (not imported from Turkey) were made in CT

I have had one for over 20 years and it was made in North Haven.
If it says "Made in the USA", or similar, then it is made here - maybe from imported parts, but no different than US cars - Chryslers make more in Mexico and Canada, where the Jap ones are mostly made here.

As previously mentioned, when price is the only consideration, and folks buy the Chinese/Russian/Turkish/Brazilian cheap imports, our folks will respond with the likes of the Express and Maverick
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Old March 30, 2013, 07:06 PM   #52
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I was looking at the Mossberg web site yesterday and would like to know what the difference is between the Maverick and the M500?
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Old March 31, 2013, 03:53 PM   #53
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Just the solid block of steel billet that the Model 12's receiver is milled from would cost hundreds today.

If receivers made of steel are important to you, the Remington Model 870, the Browning BPS and the Ithaca Model 37 are three shotguns that I'm aware of that are still constructed with steel receivers.

With its tang-mounted safety and bottom ejection, it would seem that the Browning BPS would be just about ideal for a southpaw's shotgun. I like mine a lot-even if I am a northpaw.
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Old April 8, 2013, 02:28 PM   #55
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Tang safety - enough said.
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Old April 8, 2013, 02:37 PM   #56
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Anothe vote for the Mossberg 500. Very configurable to many needs.
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Old April 8, 2013, 03:41 PM   #57
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I like my Mossberg 500 and I like my Remington Wingmaster 870.

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Old April 12, 2013, 05:52 AM   #58
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I've had an 870 Express, a Browning BPS, a Winchester 1300, and a Mossberg 500.

I still have the 500. It's all the gun I ever need.
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Old April 13, 2013, 04:32 AM   #59
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I really love the 870, but for some - not me- the ergonomics do not work. I'd see what is the most intuitive for you.
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Old April 16, 2013, 03:14 PM   #60
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Look at the latest ATF data showing 2011 production. The link is still floating around this thread.

I'd like to see that data - post a link if you can


Here's the link:

It is actually very interesting. And it is surprising how many guns are being produced every year. Good to see!
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