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Old January 23, 2013, 10:04 PM   #26
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When I was a kid I would hear from my father about how his father (my grandfather) was a young man (preteens to early teens) during the great depression. His father killed him self when he lost his job and left my grandfather to be the man of the house.

His mother worked a few odd jobs here and there but there was not much work for a 12 year old boy. So he did what he could he took the only gun he had available (an old single shot 22) and took many deer, raccoon, possum and random birds with it. While technically it was poaching I can not fault him for doing so. His mother (my great grand mother) said that she was often worried that he would get in trouble but was always relieved when he brought home meat for the pot. She admitted to my father that one of the first things she would buy is a box of 22 when the other box started running low.

My grandfather said he was caught once by a policeman who instead of doing any thing to him gave him a ride to the officers home and gave him some more ammo and some sugar and flour.

I was not around during these times but I know they where hard. I have a hard time thinking about my kids having to hunt for there supper at the age of 12. The gun is the gun that my father, my self, my brothers and my children all learned to shoot with. I still have it and it will be passed on to my eldest son when he has his own children old enough to learn to shoot. Its a 1904 (I think) Winchester youth model.
Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull.

all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...

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Old January 24, 2013, 07:03 PM   #27
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My dad grew up during the depression also. He used to tell the story about when they ran outta lead shot for the double barreled muzzleloader shotgun, they had no money to buy more. So they improvised and used carpet tacks instead. Worked well except for having retrieve the squirrels that got NAILED to the tree.......

Times were hard during the depression and lots of folks lived off the land to survive. But that was then. Many states today still have a law on the books that says a landowner can legally shoot small game anytime of year on their property......this goes back to these hard times. Nowadays tho, things are much different. Your Grandfather today, Deja vu, would qualify for free lunch at school. In the morning, he could probably get free breakfast too as many school districts offer this too for those that need help. He and each of his siblings would also get a check every month for $475 from SSI. Today he would have no legitimate reason to poach, same goes for the majority of folks in our country. LEOs and Game Wardens are no longer the Judge and Jury. Their job is not to look the other way, but to enforce the laws and leave the sentencing up to others. Otherwise they are no better than the crooks/poachers they protect. While there will always be extremes and always be one chance in a million that someone needs to poach to not go hungry, odds are today, it ain't gonna happen. They are poachin' cause they enjoy killin', or can't get a trophy legally.
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Old January 25, 2013, 02:03 AM   #28
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Hey buck, you forgot to mention the free cellphone.
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Old January 25, 2013, 02:36 AM   #29
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I don't know much about hunting, but I just wanted to know. Why is it illegal to spot light a deer?
I believe - at least in some states - they consider this unfair sport. Basically the deer freezes in the spotlight and are an easy kill.
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Old January 26, 2013, 12:12 PM   #30
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I don't know much about hunting, but I just wanted to know. Why is it illegal to spot light a deer?
I believe - at least in some states - they consider this unfair sport. Basically the deer freezes in the spotlight and are an easy kill.

In many states , spotlighting is not an illegal activity until one possesses or uses a firearm to shoot the animal. Spotlighting animals for scouting and recreational purposes is legal in many states. One should always know their local/state game laws. Spotlighting only works when it's dark and since legal deer hunting ends at dusk in most cases(except for crop damage and some population control hunts), it can be a two-fold violation if one shoots one using a light.
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Old January 26, 2013, 03:12 PM   #31
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The Native Americans here living on Treaty Recognized MN Reservations have been shinning/ head-lighting long before I was born. It's a Tradition according to what I've been told for the different tribes. Gee's what happen to my Traditional Rights?
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Old January 28, 2013, 10:19 AM   #32
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people shouldn't be out hunting at night where a light is needed. very hard to track the animal if they just wound it
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Old January 28, 2013, 10:42 AM   #33
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As far as spotlighting...We always spotlighted for coons..when I was in HS....Hides brought good money....I wish they brought good money now....
U can still spotlight for hogs here(but best to let the GW know)....Our deer count observations are done at night with a spotlight....
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