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Old January 10, 2013, 06:24 AM   #26
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@ Mac ...
Good stories.
It'll be a shame when the "good ones" such as yourself are gone & all that's left is the young pups that just see local law enforcement as a stepping stone to "the big show".(Federal)
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Old January 10, 2013, 11:45 AM   #27
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Saying most but not all cops aren't proficient with their firearms is as bad as the original exaggeration that a person can fire a thousand rounds in two miniutes.
I never said that most cops weren't proficient with their firearms. I said they were ignorant about firearms. There is quite a large difference between those two statements. They may be expert shots with their own duty weapons and be totally ignorant about firearms in general.

If scores of 90 and better were not achieved the officer was sent back to the line.
Hmmmm! Most Departments don't use any type of scoring system and haven't for quite a few years. It's either pass or fail. It's a liabilty issue... you score 100 on the range but then miss the bad guy and hit Grandma, etc.

I dropped back into the low 90's. Got kicked upstairs so I didn't have to keep redeeming myself.
Uhmmm...ahhh.... pssst! You just vaildated my statement that supervisors can't shoot.

I stand by my statement that most but not all law enforcement officers are ignorant about firearms. Keep yer powder dry, Mac.

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Old January 10, 2013, 01:04 PM   #28
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I work with computers all day long and I'm quite proficient and fast on them...for what I have to do with it on a daily basis. I have no freakin' clue about what's going on inside the box, the network or how the programs were designed. I'm an excellent driver....but I couldn't tell you what's really going on under the hood of my car if I had to. Most police officers are the same about their cruisers. They also probably couldn't explain, from a medical standpoint, how pepper spray and stun guns effect the body and do what they do.
I'm friends with a few police officers, and when it comes to shooting their weapons and the tactics used...they're great and know what exactly what to do.
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Old January 10, 2013, 06:07 PM   #29
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The only one at a police station that needs to be proficient (in terms of cleaning, disassembling, re-assembly, knowledge of firearm history, trajectory and so forth) is the person who either issues the firearms or works in the armory. I don't care if my butcher knows how to forge a knife, as long as he cuts a nice steak with it.
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Old January 10, 2013, 10:02 PM   #30
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Mac's! I retired thirteen years ago so I have no idea what qualification requirements are now for PD's.

P.S. I didn't get kicked upstairs because I couldn't shoot. I got kicked upstairs because they needed a tactical commander for our three full time SWAT teams. I could shoot then and I still can.
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Old January 11, 2013, 03:39 AM   #31
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Are cops saying silly things?
Or is it silly to take what one cop said and then pose the question as plural i.e. Cops ?

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Old January 11, 2013, 07:28 AM   #32
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Are is it silly to take what one cop said and then pose the question as plural i.e. Cops ?
That's why it was posed as a question.
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