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Old June 23, 2011, 02:27 PM   #1
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Hazmat Fee

I have never ordered from an online site such as Powder Valley and Im trying to crunch some numbers here to see how much I need to order to make it worthwhile.

Do I understand it correctly.... You pay $25 for primers and another $25 for powder because they can not ship together?

What quantities do you guys order in 45acp and 223 to make it worth your while?
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Old June 23, 2011, 02:31 PM   #2
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No, you pay $25 for up to 75 pounds of hazmat. (I think it's 75 anyway).

Compared to local prices, 1000 primers and one, sometimes 2, pounds of powder more than covers the hazmat for me.
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Old June 23, 2011, 02:43 PM   #3
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Call PV and ask them

This is from Midsouths website:
"Frequently Asked Questions
Information about orders Gunpowder & primers

All orders containing gunpowder, primers, or percussion caps will charged a $25.00 hazardous materials charge per shipping box with these items. If shipped by air, then primers, percussion caps, and loaded ammunition will be charged $35.00 per box. Gunpowder cannot be shipped by air. Powder and primers can be packed together on ground shipments for one hazardous charge provided the total weight of the order (including packaging) remains below 70 lbs." That is their policy. Others may not let you combine. You really need to decide what you want, and then call them. There is no obligation to buy on the phone.

Your other question about order quantities to be worthwhile: You need to price the same items locally at sporting goods store and gun clubs. I have found that I need to order several thousand primers and several pounds of powder, at a time, to break-even. So, I watch for "on-sale" primer prices locally. or pay too much for one pound of Varget at the gun club.
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Old June 23, 2011, 02:44 PM   #4
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Geez, guys, look it up. From the Powder Valley home page about 3/4 of the way down at:

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Old June 23, 2011, 03:15 PM   #5
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Last I saw, that most folks will put at least 2-8# jugs of powder and 25,000 primers (typically) in one box
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Old June 23, 2011, 05:19 PM   #6
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Some suppliers don’t actually stock both powder and primers so the have to charge 2 HAZMAT fees because they will ship from different locations.
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