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Old May 13, 2011, 11:41 PM   #1
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What the heck is 43 Luger?

Hi, name Craig and I am interested in getting my first handgun. I am 20 and looking to get my permit and a gun to carry as my birthday is in sept. I was looking at forums and I saw a post about a 43 luger. I can't find any info on this at all. They also talk about a 43 Makrov and a 43 kurtz or something.
What the heck is this?
its from here- http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f30/43-kurz-42446/
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Old May 13, 2011, 11:56 PM   #2
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I'd say that the people posting on that forum are being satirical, completely clueless, or are all making the same typo because .43 Luger, .43 Kurz, and .43 Makarov are not real cartridges as far as I can tell. 9mm Luger, 9mm Kurz, and 9mm Makarov are, however, all real cartridges. The only .43 cartridge that I'm aware of is .43 Spanish which is a rifle cartridge most commonly encountered in Remington Rolling Block rifles. You may encounter someone talking about a '43 Luger, but they are more than likely referring to a Luger pistol manufactured in 1943 rather than a cartridge. The only cartridges I'm aware of Lugers ever being chambered in are 9mm Luger (a.k.a. 9mm Parabellum or 9x19), .45 ACP (extremely rare, only two ever made), .22 Long Rifle (Stoeger post-war commercial guns), and 7.65 Parabellum (a.k.a. .30 Luger).
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Old May 14, 2011, 12:31 AM   #3
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It appears to be a running joke on those forums.

The closest thing to ".43 Luger", based on the ridiculous posts on that forum, would be .44 AutoMag (including 2 photoshopped images - and a third photoshop with .45 ACP).

Never in my life, have I even heard of such cartridges as .43 Luger, or .43 Kurz... especially not .430 Makarov.
I can't say they don't exist. It's very possible that, somewhere in the world, some one has an example cartridge of some hair-brained idea for a .43 caliber version of these classic cartridges. ...But the references on that forum are in jest, and all images and "data" appear to have been faked.
Even if they did exist... it would be a HORRIBLE choice for a first handgun.
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Old May 14, 2011, 12:33 AM   #4
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Hi. That has to be the slowest site on the 'net.
Don't know what those people are smoking, but there's no such thing as a .43 Luger, Makarov or Kurtz. No Makarov pistols in 1943 either.
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Old May 14, 2011, 09:01 AM   #5
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thanks, guys. this had me confused
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Old May 14, 2011, 10:16 AM   #6
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To put it mildly, and for whatever reason, they're screwing with you.

Starline has no such brass as .43 Luger, nickle plated or otherwise.

A "43 Luger" most likely means the date stamp on top of the barrel boss.
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Old May 14, 2011, 10:23 AM   #7
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so that explains why I cant find ammo for my .39 Luger!
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Old May 14, 2011, 11:13 PM   #8
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thanks everybody. i just couldn't figure out what a 43 luger was
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Old May 15, 2011, 12:50 AM   #9
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I don't have my references handy, but the Germans stopped prodction of the P.08 pistol (Luger) I believe in 1943. So, a 43 Luger is the last of the production Lugers.

In this case, I agree with the others, the .43 caliber Luger is a hoax. And so are the others, as far as I know.
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Old May 15, 2011, 11:18 AM   #10
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I believe November of 1942 was the last German P08 Luger production.

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Old May 15, 2011, 12:19 PM   #11
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So this would be a 42 Luger?
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Old May 15, 2011, 01:09 PM   #12
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I don't have my references handy, but the Germans stopped prodction of the P.08 pistol (Luger) I believe in 1943. So, a 43 Luger is the last of the production Lugers.
While I don't doubt your information, it is worth mentioning that the Swiss continued to use their own Lugers in 7.65 Parabellum until 1949 IIRC. Because of this, it is theoretically possible to encounter a '44, '45, '46, '47, '48, or '49 Luger albeit not a German one.
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Old May 15, 2011, 02:20 PM   #13
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Mello, yes that's a 1942 Luger made by Mauser. Very few Lugers were made after that year though the French did make some in 1945 and later as they had control of the Mauser plant. I believe they mainly were for souveniers and gifts, don't know how the dating was done at that time.
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So this would be a 42 Luger?
Yes. That would be a .42 Luger, and a .23 Luger. Very rare to have the "adaptive chamber".
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