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Old December 18, 2000, 08:33 AM   #1
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Greetings all,

Since I recently started reloading I am looking for a source for good cast lead bullets. My local shop stocks
D&J, so tahts what I bought. .357 LSWC for my .38 loads they worked fine and seemed consistant in size. The .45
200 gr LSWC were very inconsistant, 2 different bullet shapes in the same box weights ranging from 200gr to 217grains. Am i expecting too much I wondered that the 200LSWC weight near 200gr??? I called D&J 3X and they never returned my call. Local store says they come like that sometimes!!!!! I ordered some bullets from Carroll in Ct. $45.00 per 1000 200 gr .45 LSWC guess what they all weigh 200gr + - 1 gr. very consistant.

I note that several of you use D&J what gives??? Will the weight variation affect accuracy??
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Old December 18, 2000, 02:12 PM   #2
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Could you post the addy for that bulet supplier in Ct.? That's very good consistency for commercial cast bullets. I wouldn't mess with any company that behaves like D&J treated you!
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Old December 18, 2000, 05:21 PM   #3
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I ordered from Carroll Bullets a number of times. Pretty good, prices decent. Web site is
Mailing address is 19 Charter Ave., Stafford Springs, CT

Check out T&T also. They have good prices on Star Brand.
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Old December 18, 2000, 08:16 PM   #4
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Master, I had the same problem with DJ in 9mm and 40 lead. One box of each was enough to cure me of their brand!! I melted 'em all down and cast some of my own, then switched to Berry's plated.

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Old December 20, 2000, 12:36 AM   #5
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Thanks, Jim! Commercial bullets weighing that close sound good.
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Old December 20, 2000, 07:51 AM   #6
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I also had some questions about the recent crop of D&J Bullets, but I note their website has been "temporarily" suspended. Makes you wonder, if they were having a hard time and were just dumping their rejects recently.

Quality used to be very good!

Regards! DaMan

PS - Now I need a good source for the 9mm 147gr. LSWC bullets sized to .356". TIA!
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Old December 21, 2000, 11:05 AM   #8
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WESHOOT2, thanks for the Bull-X recommendation. I'm going to order a small quantity of their 147gr. flat points to try out.

It's really a pitty that D&J has slipped. I REALLY liked their 9mm 147gr LSWC .356". They used the #929 SAECO style bullet. The most accurate design I've found for the 9mm.

But alas, I sent them an e-mail trying to order a quantity and got NO answer! Some customer service!!!!!!

I'd like to try some other 147gr. SWC and flat point designs, But am still looking for a source that can provide good quality bullets using the #929 SAECO style bullet.

I hope I don't have to go back to casting my own! Much too time consuming and messy!

Regards! DaMan
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Old December 21, 2000, 02:07 PM   #9
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I'll 2nd Weshoot on Bull-X lead bullets, used them for many years with great results in .357, .401 and .452

I've used some of D&Js jacketed bullets with no problems in the past... FWIW the folks at Zero bullets have told me they made some of the jacketed bullets for D&J...

17 grain variation is way to much, very poor technique and quality contol imo.
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Old December 23, 2000, 05:44 AM   #10
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D & J has never made jacketed bullets. They used to buy quite a few from Zero, and re-package them. They have also used Hornady in the past. Not sure what they are doing now, as I have heard they have fallen on bad times.......

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Old December 25, 2000, 07:06 PM   #11
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I had a slightly different problem with D&J bullets. The weights weren't bad (not great, but okay). My problem is that I had specifically asked for .429 200 grain round nose flat points for a .44-40. What I got was .431 200 grain RN-FP. These don't work very well as loading them without bulging the case neck is extremely difficult. If the bullets aren't perfectly straight you end up pulling them because they won't chamber. Guess I'll have to look at Carroll bullets (Bull-X doesn't have what I want listed)
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