The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > The Harley Nolden Memorial Institute for Firearms Research

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old February 17, 2000, 11:51 PM   #1
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: June 15, 1999
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,558
I have the possibility of buying a Mauser rifle, but would like to know more about it. Here is what I know:

Receiver is marked on the left side with two lines of text.
Top line: The letter 'P' in a circle followed by "8 ESPINGARDA PORTUGUEZA 6.5 MOD. 1904"

Top of receiver has a crown marking and the intertwined letters 'I' and 'C' as seen here.

Near the end of the barrel on the right side behind the front sight are two lines of text.

Top line: "GERMAN 8MM"
Bottom line: "CAI ST ALB VT"

The serial number on the receiver is B531. That also appears on the bolt handle. All other parts of note are marked either 531 or simply 31

The front sight has side guards that are not curved and angle upward on either side of the front blade. A 10 inch cleaning rod threads in just under the barrel. The gun also has a leather sling that looks like it could be close to original.

The only other thing unique to this gun is that a section of the stock was apparently replaced where the rear sling mount is located. It looks like someone cut out a part of the stock and replaced it. The job was very well done and the grain of the wood is nearly a perfect match. The finish of the wood on the two pieces is a perfect match. The dings and minor scratches match up on both pieces, so I assume that this is original.

Here is a picture of the gun. Please note that this is not the *actual* gun, but one exactly like it.

The wood on this gun is dinged up a fair bit, but the metal is in good shape with only a bit of pitting.

Finally, here are my questions: What more can anyone tell me about this gun? Year of manufacture? Location? Was it originally a 6.5mm and rebuilt to be an 8mm? Where and when? How many were made, and how rare is this gun? What is it worth?

I believe that it is fairly common and is probably worth more than $100. Not sure how much more though.

Thanks in advance for your help.



"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4
Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
TheBluesMan is offline  
Old February 18, 2000, 06:59 PM   #2
James K
Join Date: March 17, 1999
Posts: 24,304
The rifle is a Mauser-Vergueiro, a combination of the Mauser and Mannlicher designs. It has a separate bolt head, and there is no dismount (middle) position on the safety. They were originally 6.5 x 58 Portuguese, but when Portugal adopted a 7.9 x 57 (8mm) rifle in 1937, they converted the old rifles to 8mm, so the import marking is correct. They once were rare in this country, but many have recently been imported and they are quite inexpensive today, running about $100+.

James K is offline  

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:08 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2018 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent:
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.04425 seconds with 9 queries