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Old November 2, 2009, 05:53 PM   #26
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Very nice.
You know the rest. In the books you have read
How the British Regulars fired and fled,
How the farmers gave them ball for ball,
From behind each fence and farmyard wall,
Chasing the redcoats down the lane,
Then crossing the fields to emerge again
Under the trees at the turn of the road,
And only pausing to fire and load.
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Old November 2, 2009, 08:05 PM   #27
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My T/C Encore pistol has a 410/45Lc barrel and even has a screw in choke.

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Old November 20, 2009, 03:10 AM   #28
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what about this

could have it been a marble game getter?????????
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Old November 20, 2009, 03:38 PM   #29
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Believe it or not, most BATFE agents are not JBTs or mindless robocops, but that is a tough law to enforce with any charity. The law simply does not allow for what they did. Everything will work out because they went an extra mile to do the right thing, but I cannot help wondering if they were more concerned with adverse publicity than with trying for real justice.

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Old November 20, 2009, 10:43 PM   #30
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Way back in the 1960's I picked up a Ithica 20ga Auto/Burglar gun....I was in California then, and there was a gun store and gun smith every few miles in Los Angeles at that time. (Think I paid about $100 for it).

Other than silencers and full auto, nobody much cared much about what you had.

In the 1970's a "friend" borrowed my Ithica, got a DUI and had it in the car...bye bye gun, otherwise I would probably still have it.

It was a perfect gun if you had a pocket on your door to put it in. Easy to get to if you needed it. I think I settled on #5 buckshot for it.
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Old November 21, 2009, 12:17 AM   #31
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whats the law about black powder then? i know someone that bought one from a gun shop and nothing was said. dbl barrel , 12 inches of steel and the oal was 24inches. the only thing the shop said is if you shoot it the valuim wood go down on has that gold pictures thing going on it !

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Old November 21, 2009, 12:31 AM   #32
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What about the "Howdah" pistols Cabelas sells? They're black powder dbl shotgun pistol things. Are they legal because they're black powder?
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Old November 21, 2009, 01:49 AM   #33
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Black powder guns are exempt from NFA rules.
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Old November 21, 2009, 08:56 PM   #34
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I don't buy it. My old auto burglar is illegal. Numerous calls to ATF over a number of years cannot help. Maybe I should call Hyche.
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Old November 22, 2009, 10:27 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by Bill DeShivs
Black powder guns are exempt from NFA rules.
Muzzleloading guns are exempt. Cartridges are cartridges, regardless of powder type. Unless you push the projectile into the weapon from the same end it will exit from, it is not a muzzleloader. The "inline" guns get a little fuzzy.
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Old November 22, 2009, 02:07 PM   #36
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Correct. I was tired....
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Old November 23, 2009, 08:52 PM   #37
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Just to throw this info out, in Alabama, as far as I am aware, SBR and SBS are currently prohibited by state law, so that's probably why this was not ever considered by the concerned parties.
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Old November 23, 2009, 11:28 PM   #38
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I think a 1:400 twist would be best...
HA! I love it!

My FFL just got a visit from the ATF. They called ahead of time. Normally they do not but so many shops are going out of business they hate to show up and have the store be empty (I guess they'll probably come to your home in that case to take your books). Anyway, the FFL was not pleased about the visit. They had no cause, just a random check.

But he said it went really well. He keeps very good records and they ATF guy was plenty satisfied. The funny part was this ATF guy said something like, "Yeah, I'm not going to rake you over the coals. If you were managed by other agent in the office, we'd be here for days going through these boxes" Apparently they are supposed to check the last 100 transfers. Thoroughly. This guy did half a dozen of them and wrapped up in a couple hours.
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Old November 24, 2009, 01:29 AM   #39
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>sigh< the NFA and AWB are useless....... when will they learn?
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